SA 1911 accuracy
I've been shopping for a 1911, and so far, the Springfield models seem like the best value for the money. However, I did shoot one "loaded" 1911 that didn't hit anywhere near POA with 230 grain FMJ. It shot far left and low, beyond the point of compensating for drop or windage by changing or adjusting the Novak sights. Is this pretty common on their basic models, or just a fluke? Will they do anything to correct it under warranty?
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Nobody wants to touch this one? 0 -
Hello The reason nobody wants to touch is it will more than not make you MAD. please read my entire comment.Do you know how to spell FLINCH ??? I am not tring to be a wise %$# but this is where shots go if you flinch and are right handed or shoot with both hands. You are not alone I have been match shooting for 40 years and still do it To prove to your self get your buddy to load a dummy round at different places within a mag full and fire each shot when you hit the dummy round and it does not go off see if the sights move. If you don't have dummy rounds take a mag and needle nose pliers and bend the tab of mag follower that contacts the slide stop down this will let the slide close after firing last round then get you buddy to load 1,2,3,4,5 or 6 rounds in mag let him load the gun and you shoot it when the slide closes on empty chamber and you try to shoot gun watch your sights I do this drill from time to time and it will open your eyes . Make sure it is a GOOD buddy that can keep his mouth shut. quote:"PRAISE THE HARDBALL GUN" 0 -
I have two SA 1911s, a TGO III and a loaded stainless. The TGO shot about two inches low out of the box. A few clicks of the Bomar adjustable sights and it ate the center out of the target. When I got the loaded stainless, it fired about 4 inches low at 25 feet. I did not bother me since I had already ordered the SA adjustable sight that fits the Novak cut. My TGO came with the Dawson fiber optic front sight and I ordered one for my loaded. I had the sights installed and with minor adjustments was dead on. One thing that I noticed is that the loaded needed several hundred rounds to be fully broken in and consistantly accurate. Springfield would probably work on the Novak fixed sights but I hear mixed reviews about the responsiveness of their customer service. For the money the loaded stainless is a real bargin. If you buy the gun, it will come with a coupon to let you get the SA Novak fully adjustable sight for 29.95. If you do that, you can adjust it to fit you and the type of shooting that you will be doing. I would also highly recommend the Dawson fiber optic front sight. One other thing, I found the SA loaded to have a very crisp and clean trigger right out of the box but it has a very heavy pull weight - probably 6+ pounds. Not a major problem for a defensive piece but too heavy for target. Anyway, if you get a good buy on the gun, add adjustable sights, a have a 4-5 pound trigger job done, you have an amazing 1911. 0 -
Perry shooter gives good advice is right about the flinch but found that my Springfield loaded did shoot low. I had two other .45s with me the day I first shot the SA loaded. All put the shots at POA except the new gun. I had my buddy try the gun and he hit at exactly the same spot. Before you take my advice about the adjustable sights, try the ideas Perry Shooter suggested. If you find that you jerk on the empty round, work on your breathing, grip, and squeeze and see if the bullet impact changes without changing your POA. 0 -
You didn't make me mad. I'm very aware of the effect of the flinch. I was pretty confident that it wasn't the cause of the problem though, since none of us had the same problem with the Kimbers we shot at the same time. I'd have to look at the adjustable sights to decide if I like them. I considered the black stainless model, but the Bomar sight looks like it would catch on clothing really bad. I'm down to deciding whether or not the loaded stainless will fit the bill, or if I'll go with a Kimber for more money. Thanks for the help. Sounds like shooting low is common on these. 0 -
Hello OK we got flinch out of the way .next thing is
You move the rear sight in the direction you want the group to go Don't laugh plenty of people have moved them the wrong way and even fixed sights can be moved sideways and top of front sight can be filed down.Next and this is easy light hollowpoints loaded to high vel. will "PRINT" low heavy slower bullets will print high, opposite of what you think reason BARREL TIME . quote:"PRAISE THE HARDBALL GUN"0 -
Hello not to worry buy the loaded one if it shoots low or high Novak offers two adjustable sights that will fit existing dovetail cut. We sell and install them give me a call and we can talk 217-585-1911. 0 -
I don't know why people are so worried about adjustable sights
catching on clothing.I would never use a tricked out pistol as a carry
weapon even a semi modified one. I bought a run of the mill rattling
slide (45)with fixed sights. I modified the sights to get it to shoot
fairly well at 10 yrds and it digests any ammo I ask it to.I never have tried wadcutters but who would in a defensive pistol.You seriuosly shoot a couple of thousand rounds out of it and you will be amazed at what you can hit.If you get into the thick of it, it will be in close proximty. If you think you need a long tom get an M40.
Keep the adjustable sight weapons on the range. I'm telling you, practice and you'll smile.0 -
really does depend a lot on bullrt weight. as previously noted heavy bullets will generally print higher due to barrel time. i have a s/w 1911 that shot low, no matter what.flinch not a factor. s/w offers a lower front sight, installed that, cured the problem. am now a believer in fixed sights on the 1911, which has always been my all time favorite pistol. 0
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