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jrobinson145
Hi, Just found this site and just recently got an M-1. I was lucky and got in on a group buy at work and we got them for $129 each. I was not fortunate enought to get the Rockola that came in the group.

What I did get though was a Winchester. I would like to see if anyone here can help me identify some of the parts on the rifle. I want to make it all Winchester and return it to its original state plus maybe a value once I'm done. Heres the info on the rifle:

Winchester
SN: 55889**

Rear sight is adjustable with "H" in a shield
barrel Marked with "W"
Front sight marked with "N"
Barrel Band w/ Bayonet lug marked "MMQ"
Slide marked with "C" and "AOB"
Bolt marked "A" "UM" and "AOB"
Recoil Lug marked "SG"
Trigger Housing marked "W"
Hammer marked "WA"
Magazine Catch marked "CCM"

Stock is definately not correct as it is marked "IO" and there is a dark armory mark along with a date "5-11-62" stamped in the side.

Any help that you all can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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  • rufe-snow
    Post to the Carbine forum on jouster.com, those guys will be happy to give you chapter and verse on it.


    http://www.jouster.com/cgi-bin/carbine/carbine.pl?

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  • p3skyking
    You and your wallet have your work cut out for you.
    I think your hammer and trigger housing is okay.
    You need Craig Reish (sp) little carbine book. It's invaluable for reconstruction.
    Good luck.

    Any man can shoot a gun, and with practice he can draw fast and shoot accurately, but that makes no difference. What counts is how you stand up when somebody is shooting back at you.
    To die for what one believes is all very well for those so inclined, but it has always seemed to me the most vain of solutions. There is no cause worth dying for that is not better served by living. L'Amour
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  • nmyers
    The book p3skyking was referring to is "U.S. M1 Carbines Wartime Production" by Craig Riesch.

    I usually discourage people from doing restorations unless it's just 1 or 2 small parts. Not only will it cost a lot, but it will always be a "restoration", not an "original". And, there were probably some things done to it during rebuild that can't be undone, such as the stake mark made when the adjustable sight was installed.

    What you have now is collectible in it's own right: an arsenal rebuilt Winchester. If it were mine, I'd leave it exactly as I got it.

    But, $129 each? If you're in the US, you need to talk to your local police department; something isn't right. Your gun is worth at least $700-800 in the US.

    Neal
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  • jrobinson145
    Well...I kinda am the local police. All the guys that got in on this were police officers in my department.
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  • usar1
    jrobinson145: can you tell us where you got them at $129 each, I am sure i can get a bunch of guys together to buy some.

    NRA LIFE MEMBER.
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  • nmyers
    Sorry usar1, but this is what is known as a "sweetheart deal".

    In the years after the Korean War, the federal govt gave M1 carbines to those police depts that requested them. They were given without restriction, unlike the M14's & M16's that are being given to PD's today. That means that when the PD's decided to dispose of the carbines, they could do whatever they wanted with them. Some cut them up, some sold them to gun dealers, some auctioned them, & others permitted their officers to buy them. This, apparently, is how our poster & his friends got theirs. All perfectly legal & at the discretion of the dept chief & the local government.

    Some M2 carbines (full auto) were also given to PD's. Depending upon the transfer form giving them title, some of these have been transferable to members of the public.

    The bottom line is that these deals are not open to the public. I, for one, do not begrudge their getting a good deal on a carbine.

    Neal
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  • jrobinson145
    Ok,,,I called GFCC today and the lady told me that we were part of a Law Enforcement only purchase. I didn't know that seeing as how I found the ad in Shotgun News. Anyhow, she said that they did Garands right after the carbines ran out. I asked if she had anything coming up and she said that it will probably be six months or so. She told me to call her, and believe me, I will!

    Anyway, thanks for the help.
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