good beginning .22LR
this may have been asked already(search doesnt work on my connection, too slow i think) but im looking for a good .22LR rifle under $400(i say 400 because there probably arnt any for under 300 right?). ive looked at several brands, but need expert advice on them. the brands i was looking at are; CZ, KBI/Charles Daly, Marlin .22, Remington Rimfire, Ruger Carbines, Savage Sporting, and Thompson/Center. i was also wondering what the difference between heavy barrel and normal is, and do i need it? thanx for any helpful replys!
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If you can tell us specifically what you intend to use it for,i.e. Hunting, Target Shooting, Plinking, etc. etc. We would be more likely to be able to advise you.
The rifles you mentioned in your post, cover the whole spectrum of the above displines, no one of them will be able to do everything.
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ruger 10/22
I WOULD RATHER BE DUCK HUNTING.0 -
It would also help if you had any action preference....Bolt, Auto , Lever?
Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob0 -
Auto Choices:
1. T/C Classic 22
2. Ruger 10/22
3. Remington 597
4. Savage (Only $130)
Bolt Choices:
1. CZ 452 American (Awesome Gun)
2. Savage Mark II
3. Ruger 77/22
4. Marlin
Those would be my choices. As far as the Daly goes, I haven't seen their 22's, but I'm not impressed with their 1911's. Both the T/C and the CZ should be available for around $350.
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THE RUGER 10/22 IS A GREAT CHOICE [ UNDER $200.00 ]. BUY THE BASIC 10/22 AS A BEGINNER AND CUSTOMIZE AS YOU WISH . AS YOU BECOME A BETTER SHOOTER YOU CAN MAKE THE RIFLE A BETTER SHOOTER ALSO.
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The CZ 452 line is probably the best value in bolt action 22 rimfire. Outstatnding fit, finish, and accuracy. The "Lux" comes with great sights, but the scope rail is 11mm instead of the more common 3/8". The 11mm CZ rings are quality, but at $50 should be made out of gold. The "American" has no sights, but has the standard 3/8" dovetail. You would be very happy plinking, hunting, or target shooting with any of the CZ line. 0 -
the 10/22 is one of my favorites, but it depends on the purpose of buying a 22. if it's for a kid, i'd say single shot bolt action. teaches em to aim and steady their shot better than a semiauto. alot of kids with semiautos turn into "ammo wasters". my first rifle was a browning lever action from the 60's and i still shoot it. i have 2 10/22's that i love, a marlin semiauto, some bolts and some pumps. gotta say the 10/22 is what gets shot the most. for a beginer, bolt action is the way to go. and you really don't need to spend a ton of money for a good little 22. save some money and buy ammo. cody
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marlin 880ss is not a bad choice
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id like to just have fun with one, you know just plink around with it, maybe mount a scope and do some target shooting. i dont hunt and no lever actions. i prefer a bolt, but semi auto looks cool too. and i would like a 5-10 rd clip, i dont like tubular. also im looking for a gun that will last me a long time (more than 10 yrs) thank you again! 0 -
Any of these choices will last you almost a life time if you take good care of them. 0 -
I still shoot the same Ruger 10/22 I purchased in 1964. I couldn't count the 1000's of rounds its fired!!!My all time favorite 22 is a Winchester Model 61 pump. If you're looking for a target bolt action....Check out a Winchester 52.
Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob
A great everyday bolt action is the Ruger 77/22.Has the feel of a full size rifle,and comes with a 10 shot magazine.0 -
Now that we know your intentions.
Ruger 10/22!!
BW
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Hello Rainy...
Look for a Winchester Model 69A or a Winchester Model 75 on the auction section of this site. You can not go wrong with either one, and I can guarantee that with normal care, it will be around for your entire shooting career.
Bob... I am disappointed in you[V]
Bert H.
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Hey Bert- At least I threw out a 61 and a 52....but I really like my 77/22 with a 2X7 Leupold and a custom AAA walnut stock.[8D][8D]
Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob
But you're right.... that 75 is a sweet thing!!!0 -
quote:Originally posted by Hangfire
Hey Bert- I threw out a 61 and a 52....but I really like my 77/22 with a 2X7 Leupold and a custom AAA walnut stock.[8D][8D]
Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob
It just goes to show that you are not a "true" Winchester man... just a wanabee[}:)]. Anyone that would throw out a Winchester Model 52 is a really sick person and should be taken out back and horsewhipped for starters. Oh well, I am willing to try and straighten your sorry butt out. I would be willing to bet $$$ that my Model 75 Target Rifle (with an old Winchester A5 scope) will shoot the lights right out of that Ruger of yours.
Bert H.
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The phrase "Threw Out" means I offered it as a selection!!!!Nothing could touch my 52 as far as quality and accuracy. Its got one of those long tube Unertls, and can hit a gnats a$$ at 100 yds!!!Go ahead and shoot that 75, and maybe someday you'll be able to step up to a 52-if you can make the cut....[8D]
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quote:Originally posted by Hangfire
The phrase "Threw Out" means I offered it as a selection!!!!Nothing could touch my 52 as far as quality and accuracy. Its got one of those long tube Unertls, and can hit a gnats a$$ at 100 yds!!!Go ahead and shoot that 75, and maybe someday you'll be able to step up to a 52-if you can make the cut....[8D]
Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob
Bob... it is just simply too easy to yank your chain today pal[:D]
Yes, the Model 52 is as good of a 22 rimfire rifle as has ever been built by ANY manufacturer, but it really isn't any better than the Model 75 (they shared the exact same barrels). The U.S. Military bought both models for their shooting teams[^].
Bert H.
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You know in all seriousness, you're right. I have always considered the Model 75 as the ultimate 22 Bolt Action...all things considered.
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quote:Originally posted by Hangfire
You know in all seriousness, you're right. I have always considered the Model 75 as the ultimate 22 Bolt Action...all things considered.
Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob
Somehow I just knew that you would eventually reverse your R.C.I. problem and see things my way[:D]
Bert H.
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1) ive narrowed down my search to CZ, Marlin, Ruger and Savage. i like the way synthetic stocks look, but im open to wood. it NEEDS to be UNDER $400.
2)where can i find a winchester 52 or 61 or 75?
3)i still dont know what a heavy barrel is used for...
thank you all so much for your help![:D][:D]0 -
400$ you say?
Well, probably can't help there.
But I guess as long as you stay with the rather well known brands and takes their better models, not their standard grade models. You'd be in the clear and get a tool you will love for many years to come.
You can take the cheapest rifle and a decent scope or a high grade rifle and a truly specialized scope - and all you have is two different tools that can be a lot of fun, depending on what you want to do with it.
I know CZ, Marlin and Ruger makes decent guns - but I always prefer Ansh?tz in small bore rifles.
Here the CZ's are cheap and the american made rifles are slightly more expencive.
Ok, I've gone further, I've got a standard Ansh?tz model 1451 - put on a Schmidt&Bender 1.5-6*42mm (30mm maintube) scope on it from when I had my Steyr Mannlicher Scout and it will continously make 8-10mm big 10-shot groups at 60 metres and hit beercans at around 100 metres.
(once it's been zeroed properly..!!)
Don't do anything that I've allready done - That'd be just plain STOOOOOOPID.0 -
quote:Originally posted by rainy
1) ive narrowed down my search to CZ, Marlin, Ruger and Savage. i like the way synthetic stocks look, but im open to wood. it NEEDS to be UNDER $400.
2)where can i find a winchester 52 or 61 or 75?
3)i still dont know what a heavy barrel is used for...
thank you all so much for your help![:D][:D]
Hello rainy...
First, I appologize for the hi-jinks that Bob and I have been partaking in on your question, but we do enjoy the friendly bantering back and forth.
To answer your question, it is doubtful that you can find either a Winchester Model 52 or Model 75 for under $400. Both of these rifles were Winchester's cream of the crop when it came to a bolt-action repeating 22 rimfire target rifle. The Model 61 is a slide-action rifle, and based on your stated preference, would not be a consideration.
In all seriousness, a Winchester Model 69A would fit your stated requirements perfectly. It is a bolt-action box magazine (5 or 10 round) fed rifle with a 27" barrel. They are very accurate rifles, and can be found on the auction section of this site for wll under $400. The Model 69/69A was in production from March 1935 until the end of 1963, with a total of 355,363 of them made. Some of them were factory provided with a 2-3/4 power or 5 power scope, but if you find one with the original scope, it is a collectors items, and the price will definitely exceed $400. If it was not evident by now, I am a hardcore Winchester fan.
Bert H.
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two more things...1)how much for a decent scope?
2)what in the world is a heavy barrel...anyone??0 -
quote:Originally posted by rainy
1) ive narrowed down my search to CZ, Marlin, Ruger and Savage. i like the way synthetic stocks look, but im open to wood. it NEEDS to be UNDER $400.
2)where can i find a winchester 52 or 61 or 75?
3)i still dont know what a heavy barrel is used for...
thank you all so much for your help![:D][:D]
The 52,61, and 75 have not been produced for years.Heavy bbls. are generally used for target shooting.They are more stable due to their weight and heat displacement after repeated shots.
Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob0 -
quote:Originally posted by rainy
two more things...1)how much for a decent scope?
2)what in the world is a heavy barrel...anyone??
1) Decent scope can run several hundred $$$
2) A "heavy" barrel is one that is larger in diameter than standard. They are often referred to as "Target", "Bull", etc. Heavier barrels produce better inherent accuracy due to their ability to attenuate the vibration harmonics associated with a bullet passing through the rifling and exiting the muzzel of a barrel.
Bert H.
Real Men use a SINGLE-SHOT!0
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