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BigBarn
Hey guys;

Another question on the Garand, I am in the market to be looking for a good Garand for myself, after working on my friends, and finding out that it is junk. What do I look out for, and what manufacturer is the best too look for? I am new to these particular rifles, but really like the quality of them, and enjoy shooting them. So I think it is time to buy.
Give me your best recomendations on w3hat rifle you would buy if you were in the market.

Thanks guys,

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  • Rebel_James
    BB, go to www.odcmp.org and buy one from the US governmen, FedEx'd right to your front door! That's where I got mine.


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  • Laredo Lefty
    BB, The Civilian Marksmanship Program is a good way to get an M-1, but it involves a bit more red tape than buying one from a private party or store.

    Springfield Armory are the most common Garands you will find. They were also made by Winchester, Harrington & Richardson, and International Harvester. They are all of equal quality since they were made to strict govt specs.

    Things to look for are import marks, meaning the gun was brought back into the U.S. after leaving as a lend lease gun some years ago.
    I would have a gunsmith look over any potential purchase, to check for throat errosion, headspace, and overall condition of the barrel and internal parts.

    Mark Christian is the local expert on Garands. He may have some added suggestions.

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  • mrmike08075
    LMR BBL or DUTCH VAR BBL are the best shooters...
    the condition of the bore, throat erosion numbers, and the condition of the muzzle are of paramount importance. do not buy a gun with a cheap, poorely made commercial replacement reciever. spend the extra money to get a shooter, as well as a nice looking piece. MARK CHRISTIAN is our resident guru. i have just posted a question for him on M-1 GARANDS. best regards, mike.

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  • nmyers
    If you can't qualify for a CMP rifle, you should be able to find a CMP rifle on the used market for $500-600. Many of those who DO qualify get duplicates, & they just want to get their money out of them. Just be sure to get the CMP paperwork.

    Beyond that, it's a crap shoot if you aren't familiar with them. It's like when I bought my first used car: boy, did I get taken!

    One trick of the trade: Since muzzle wear is important to accuracy, you have to measure it. There's a gauge to do that, but you can use a single round of USGI M2 ball ammo as a substitute. Insert it point first in the muzzle & measure how much copper jacket shows: 5/16"=new barrel, 1/4"=slightly used, 1/8"=well used, & none=shot out.

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  • BigBarn
    Thanks guys;
    I appreciate the info. mrmike, being as I am a novice in all this, just what is LMR BBL, and DUTCH VAR BBL?
    I am completely in the dark when it comes to the military letter identification of rifles or any other mil. parts and pieces. I don't mean to sound dumb, it's just that I have not been connected here for very long. But I am a fast learner!
    And nmyers, I will absolutely measure the bore by your suggestion. I knew there was a way to do it, so thanks for that.

    As always, thanks to all for your input,

    BigBarn[8D][8D]

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  • mrmike08075
    if the BBL were visible when the action is open and locked is marked LMR and a date, its a LINE MATERIAL COMPANY manufactured BBL. if its marked VAR under a stlyized "crown" proof, its a DUTCH "V" BBL. the manufacture and date of production info are stamped on the BBLs.

    while any GI, BERETTA, or DUTCH V BBL is OK, if in good shape, i feel that the two above mentioned types are more accuratte, and better made. just my opinion.

    you should spend a few $`s and buy one of the many referance books that will answer most of the simple questions.

    the CMP had some LMR BBLs for sale, but the good ones went very quick.

    i am not the M-1 expert here, just an informed amatuer.
    best regards, mike.

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