Dumb new guy - Colt Dragoon 1st gen.
I just bought a genuine Colt Dragoon serial #135X. It has a couple of internal broken parts, and old after market two piece leather grip, and alot of rust! I have disassembled the revolver and I am in the process of cleaning it. Should I??? How much? Don't touch??? If it is ok to... Are the percussion cap seats pressed in or screwed in? How much is this pile worth? Thanks in advance! I have pics. Wade
PS - I was going to soak it in transmission fluid, becuase that's what we do with old rusty tools to clean them up. Advisable?
PSS - I also purchased a 1893 Marlin lever action rifle, A Lee-Enfield No4 Mark 1 (what is with all the wax!!! Took me 4 hours to strip and clean it!) and a Egyptian Snider Enfield Carbine breechloader (1871?). Any help on these guys as far as value?
PS - I was going to soak it in transmission fluid, becuase that's what we do with old rusty tools to clean them up. Advisable?
PSS - I also purchased a 1893 Marlin lever action rifle, A Lee-Enfield No4 Mark 1 (what is with all the wax!!! Took me 4 hours to strip and clean it!) and a Egyptian Snider Enfield Carbine breechloader (1871?). Any help on these guys as far as value?
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DONT! wire brush the Colt. US a GI tooth brush and elbow grease only, to try to remove the surface rust. "Kroil" is the perferred product used by the folks in the trade. It's specially formulated to penetrate through the rust. Brownells carries it.
We need a specific description of all the markings, or high quality photos of your firearms, if we're to help you identify them.
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Welcome to the Ask the Experts Forum: You have a Possibly worth 6 figure Gun in this Colt! If its professionaly Restored Gun...like by the Factory (COLT), the Value could possibly be more....The Nipples are Threaded.....Not Metric as some think....Colt used the Wentworth Thread...I would'nt do anything until having a palaver with the Colt Factory....Your Dragoon deserves that chance to survive......Don't soak it or brush it....Let a Certified Professional do it.... I'll let someone else tackle the other two gun questions.....The Serial Number shows that your Dragoon was one of the first 20 made in 1848..Don't gamble.....!
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Don't touch that Dragoon!
This is potentially a very valuable revolver. Any cleaning, rust removal, repair, or restoration is best left to a Colt expert!0 -
I called colt and they referred me to a guy... He says it's the real thing and he would be interested... I don't want to give it up too cheap!!![;)] Any consultants out there for hire? 0 -
The percussion cap seats are called nipples and are threaded into the cylinder. They probably will need a LONG soak .
Rolling over the sharp corners of screw slots with a screwdriver and nipple flats with a wrench will detract from the value of the piece.
Give it a soak in Kroil for a couple of weeks and then work on it with a brass or bronze brush, no steelwool or steel wire brushes.
Dont count your chickens at this point because a lot of forgeries are out there.0 -
OK.
According to David Stroud -
The SECOND MODEL SQUARE BACK retained the brass square-back trigger guard, brass back strap with the screw placed above the wedge, along with the wedge entering up right. The barrel lug is thin and the cylinder pin is slotted. The serial number range is 1250-4200.
According to Larry Trueman -
After checking with our experts we feel you have a Hartford English Dragoon revolver( the crown with arrows are British ).
Didn't the Hartford English Dragoon have a round trigger guard? But then why does the barrel have the "Crown with arrows are British" marks? And... it is stamped "Colt's Patent U.S." under the barrel???
ARRRRRRRG!
Thanks Wade0
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