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Winchester model 64

jaoob
My Dad left a Winchester model 64 with me and I was wondering the appoximate age. Serial #12202xx. Any clues? It's not in the best of shape but after 20 years of sitting I put 3 out of 4 in the nine ring @ almost 100 yds. Thanks for your help. Pete
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  • jaoob
    could somebody tell me what the number is of the front sight hood for a Model 64 ? Every place I look I get per 64 guns 94 70 etc.
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  • joel_black
    Did you measure it all the way to the face of the bolt?
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  • jaoob
    Joel,
    Yes 19" exactly.

    Jim
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  • only winchesters
    jaoob: Your serial number is questionable pre-64 Md 64s went from 1-66783. Winchester reintroduced the 64 in 1972-73 where they made approx. 8250 but I don't have a serial number listing for the post-64 guns. They had 20in. or 24in. barrels on pre64, and 24in. on post64 according to one book I have.
    Pre-64 with a 2oin. barrel aprox. $550 graded at 95%
    Post-64 24in barrel $300 at 95%
    That's according to my Blue Book.
    Now with a shorter barrel, the gun would be considered no longer a collectible. So the value would be what ever someone is willing to pay for a shooter. I think you paid to much for a shooter. Sorry
    Regards Dave

    Regards Dave
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  • jaoob
    Thanks for the help. The seller says it was made in 1951. I will have to carry a tape along from now on. It's a great looking rifle and I bought it thinking it would give me some leverage to trade on an AK
    Not the first time I screwed up.
    How much could I possibly lose?
    Maybe 100-150 depends on how long I would keep it.

    Jim
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  • Bert H.
    Hello Jaoob...

    The Model 64 was serial numbered within the Model 94 serial numbers(not in its own serial number sequence), and based on the partial number you provided, it was made circa 1951/52.

    As Dave stated, the Model 64 (in 30-30) was manufactured with either a 20" or a 24" barrel only. If yours measures 19", it was cutdown from a 24" barrel length. As such, it has almost zero collector value, and its remaining value is as a shooter only. In my opinion, you overpaid for it by about $200.

    Bert H.

    Real Men use a SINGLE-SHOT!
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  • taperloc
    Hello jaoob,
    It seems that years ago, there was a "tale" that if you cut 1/2" to 1" off the end of a Winchester barrel it would improve accuracy. I'm afraid you have a weapon that was owned by someone who believed it.
    I have seen at least two 94's in the same condition.
    Taperloc.
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by taperloc
    Hello jaoob,
    It seems that years ago, there was a "tale" that if you cut 1/2" to 1" off the end of a Winchester barrel it would improve accuracy. I'm afraid you have a weapon that was owned by someone who believed it.
    I have seen at least two 94's in the same condition.
    Taperloc.


    That "tale" actually has some validity to it, and it dates back to the late 1880s. The basis for the origination of that "tale" was due to the careless use of the old steel cleaning rods (supplied in the butt of the Henry, Model 1866, 1873, and 1876 rifles). When cleaning the bores on those old rifles (which could only be accomplished from the muzzle end of the barrel), over time and carelessness, the most critical rifling (at the muzzle) was damaged or excessively worn by the steel cleaning rod entering at the muzzle. In order to regain the former accuracy, 1/4" - 1" of the barrel was nipped off at the muzzle, and the former accuracy was regained... thus the beginning of that "tale".



    Bert H.

    Real Men use a SINGLE-SHOT!
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