Hi-point 9mm...good, bad, or ugly ???
I have seen the light and am just getting into the gun scene. I am looking for a good dependable 9mm for $200 or less (oxymoron...I know). Unfortunately price is a major concern right now. Hi-point was suggested to me by a friend of a friend who is a dealer. Tried to do some research and did find that the price is right...maybe a little too right at about $160 sugg. retail. It has a lifetime warranty. Made in U.S. Adjustable sights, compensator. Anybody have some feedback on these or other suggestions??
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They work, but for $200 you might look at a milsurp pistol like a Makarov, CZ52, or Star Model B
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A friend of mine bought a Hi Point several years ago. I have probably put close to 500 rounds through it myself with several diff types of ammo with zero failures. Out of the box, after a couple shots, I was able to put my shots dead center at @ 25 yards. My friend has never had any issues with the gun. Your right that it is ugly, but for a couple hundred bucks who cares. Be aware though that as of now there are no hi-capacity mags for this gun. It will only hold 10+1. If this isn't a issue for you, go for it! 0 -
hipoints are made in mansfield ohio, yes they do have a lifetime warranty and stand behind it very well!!! i see alot of them when i do gunshows in ohio, naturally!! they are a good starting off handgun. no highcap mags are available for them because they are a postban weapon. maybe sept vote will change that! [i doubt it though]good luck, learn your weapon, and use all safety guidelines!!!! 0 -
I would normally at this point bash the smithereens out of a Hi-Point pistol but you seem, by your post, to understand the basic issues at hand; i.e., these can be a good starter gun until you can afford something more substantial. I have seen and heard horrible things about these, Jennings and Bryco's over the years and have also heard a few positive reports from people concerning them as well. Trouble is the majority of these positive reports I believe to be coming from stocking dealers who may have a vested interest in seeing them move! Keep this in mind when making an informed decision! I have, however, heard good things about thier warranty issues...people seem to be happy about the way things were taken care of in that respect. Again, though, why are there so many testimonials available in this regard? Perhaps high failure rate?
The point raised earlier about a good used gun bears some interest here I believe. Unless you are dead set on a NIB weapon, think about that CZ-52, Makarov, Ballester Molina (a 45 ACP) or Star. Any of the 3 of these used are good, solid, METALURGICALLY sound weapons that will likely provide a long, reliable service life for you. In particular, the CZ-52 is built like a tank! It shoots a 30 caliber round as opposed to a 9mm but the ammo is readily available (cheap as well) and moves considerably faster than a 9mm Parabellum. The 9x18 MAkarov round is a slight bit larger in diameter than the 9mm Parabellum, but packs a little less whallop by the same token(falls in between the .380 ACP round and the 9mm Parabellum). As far as the Stars go, depending on model type,caliber can be either 9mm Parabellum or the slightly more powerful 9mm Largo (long). The Ballester-Molina (Argentine made Colt 1911 look-alike, as is the Star series made in Spain) Any of these guns will do nicely and all can be had for the $150 to $250 dollar range, in good serviceable condition.
You have one basic decision to make (new vs. used) and perhaps several details to sort out if you opt for used. My advice; go for a QUALITY used pistol at an affordable price, but you must in the end make up your own mind on this subject!
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Cant beat them for the price !
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Thanks for the advice and education. I have repeatedly run across Makarov's in doing some research. Have only read good things. I need to do some more research, but all things relatively equal would lean towards a NIB pistol since I am wet behind the ears. Not educated enough on the subject to critique a used one. Thanks again all for the education. Trying not to buy a lesson if you know what I mean. 0 -
Ugly gun but shoots unbelievably well (I hate to admit) no jams either.
PJ
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You'll never get back close to what you paid for a highpoint!!!
Please for the love of god man have a little more self respect and buy yourself anything other than a highpoint!!!
For under $200 check out:
StarBM
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=18975519
Helwan
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=19105375
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=19125161
http://www.southernohiogun.com/new_hand.html
Makarov
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Like_New_Bulgarian_Makarov.html
Either of these will be a much nicer gun that actually might be worth something if you ever sold them.
Better yet get yourself a shotgun, till you can save up to buy a better handgun.
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/copy_of_copy_of_Romanian_AK_SAR_Rifles.html
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2 out of 3 in my opinion. Ugly and good. It is noteworthy that GT mag picked them over the Marlin Camp 9. I have shot a friend's and had no problems. He has had it for 2 years and loves it. You need to remember that you are not buying an AR but sure aren't paying that price either.
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Good paperweight, bad investment, definitely ugly.
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