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Beretta 9000S vs. Beretta 92FS Compact Type M

zamboni68
What's everyone's opinion about the two "compact" pistols from Beretta...the new 9000S and the older 92FS Compact Type M for conceal carry, accuracy, reliability, resale value, etc...?

Thanks, in advance, for your help!

KEVIN
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  • picwik
    I'd read about the Beretta 9000S and grabbed up the first one I saw at a gun show, one of the first released to the public. Having had extremly good luck with previous Berettas I had very high hopes for this compact well designed little .40. The first thing I noticed was that the thumb safety (similar to a 1911) was almost impossible to operate with the thumb of one hand being terribly stiff. Okay, no problem I thought, it probably will loosen up with use, not an uncommon phenomenon in the gun trade. My first disapointment came at the range. Accuracy was mediocre at best, no matter what ammunition I used, but much more disturbing was the fact that the weapon would malfunction, usually a failure to feed but also a couple of stove pipes, at least once in every magazine fired. About this time Beretta recalled the weapon. I dutifully boxed it up and sent it off to Beretta along with a list of the problems I'd encountered. Three months later I received the pistol back along with a free holster for my trouble. The problem was that none of the aforementioned problems had been rectified! I remember sitting one night and while watching television, working the safety up and down until my hands were sore. It never did loosen up and when I would get it to work, the force required would cause the lever to move all the way down to decock. I tried "breaking it in" with close to a thousand rounds and none of the problems ever dissipated. Finally, in frustration, I sold it. I do want to be clear on one fact. I've owned a plethora of Berettas in my shooting lifetime and found them to be high quality sound firearms. I don't know if my problems were because it was a first production run weapon or if I just had a "lemon". I do know that I wouldn't by another 9000. I've owned several mod 92's and one 92FS type M that was a beautiful little pistol and I wish I had it back. It was everything the 9000 wasn't. Sorry about getting "long winded"
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  • zamboni68
    ...don't apologize, that's what I wanted to hear! Did you find the 92FS Compact Type M was more like the other Beretta's you've owned? I assume that you'd recommend the Type M over the 9000S as a conceal weapon, right?

    Anyone else?
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  • picwik
    The type M was a great little pistol, I wish I had it back and think I might just wander around looking for a used one. I do recommend two small automatics that I currently carry under a sport coat or jacket. Both are chambered in 9mm because 9mm "ball" is so cheap for practice yet one can carry Cor-Bon 115 +P or Federal 9bple +P+ for street use, and yes dog gone it, I'll admit it, I like 9 millimeters! The first one is a Sig 239 with night sights and the second is a Kahr MK9. There is no surprise where the Sig is concerned, It's accurate, totally reliable and also comes in .40 S&W and .357 Sig. The Kahr was a real surprise, I've put a good thousand rounds of the cheap ($4.99 a box on sale) UMC 115 gn FMJs through it and another 250 or so Cor-Bon and have yet to have a single malfunction. It's pretty darned accurate as well, even with the short sight radius. I like it so much that I ordered some Pearce Magazine Extenders for it that let me get a better grip on the weapon when firing the +P loads and added a set of novak tritium night sites. It's my first experience with Kahr Arms and I've been very pleased. It also comes in .40 S&W and a polymer frame model the PM9. You also might want to look at the Sig 225. I've seen several on the site (Gunbroker) that have been factory reconditioned and it is just basically and older, slightly larger version of the 239. My experiences with Sig have all been great. The web site for Kahr is www.kahr.com Good luck, shopping for a pistol is half the fun!
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  • jsergovic
    I hunted for months to get my hands on an "M", only to find they are not that compact.
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  • zamboni68
    That's OK if it's not all that "compact"...I'd be happy if it's between the size of the full-size Beretta 92 and the newer compact 9000S.

    What about the accuracy/reliability of the 92FS Compact Type M?
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  • drobs
    I don't own either but from handling the 9000S, I would never buy one. The slide is just too small for me. There's nothing to grab onto. Maybe I'm biased but I've had a few failures to feed with some guns and I like to have a bigger grip surface on a slide to clear jams.



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  • zamboni68
    I've purchased a Type M from a member of this website. I went to a local gunshop, but they only had the 9000S--and boy was that thumb safety tight! You guys were right!

    I'll let you know my opinion in a couple weeks after I've made arrangements for shipping/fire a few rounds.

    Thanks again!

    KEVIN
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  • rolpher
    the 92fs has a "floating" barrel set up. As the gun heats up with more than a few rounds through it watch your shots go awry. Beretta is one of the "safest" guns out there, especially for a carry, but quality is now a big issue. Compare a real italian piece (pre 1970) to what is out there now, no comparison. Just my two cents. Sig makes a better compact that at least holds it accuracy on the range.[8D]
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  • zamboni68
    One concern I have about the Sig is the lack of safety--there is only one safety device on the Sig. I have 3 small children, and I prefer the redundant safety devices on the Beretta.

    As for the accuracy, I will let you know. I am planning on using this as a concealed carry weapon, especially now that Ohio has passed a CCW law recently.
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  • zamboni68
    I went out tonight to the indoor firing range, and I was impressed!

    The 92FS Compact L Type M was very accurate, and I was able to get my first 16-rounds in the center of the target!! In comparison, my friend's .40 and .22 were a bit spread-out over the target.

    After firing 50+ rounds tonight, I am very happy. It's a bit heavy for a conceal carry weapon, but it's a wonderful range pistol. It's well worth the $425 I spent in the on-line auction (thanks Ralph).
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