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Webley Bulldog .450 No.2

fireman118
I have a Webley British Bulldog marked for the .450 No2. Is this the same as a .450 Colt? It seems to match the cylinder.[?]
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  • rufe-snow
    Kind of confusing situation here, as the standard reference "Cartridges of the World", identifies the cartridges differently.

    There is a "45 Webley" and a "450 Colt", with only minor dimensional differences.

    As the British Bulldog is probably a low pressure black powder era revolver, it would be best to be prudent and have a gunsmith check it out before using questionable ammo.

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  • hrf
    "No. 2" is Webley's model number, not part of the caliber identity. It's chambered for the old .450 British centerfire cartridge, loaded in USA until 1930s as the .45 Webley round.
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  • john carr
    I have one of these. Mine, tho marked .450 will chamber and fire a .455 Webley MKII. Not recommended. Pressure just too great. I sold all my .455 ammo and may or not load some mild black powder rounds. Man At Arms, volume 17, number six, December 1995 has a six page spread on the Bulldog which goes into a lot of detail.
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  • v35
    Just happen to have a blue label box of UMC 45Webley left.
    I had two but fired a box in a 5 1/2" 45 Long Colt and a Webley Constablary Revolver about 40 years ago. I think the charge is about 8 or 10 grains of black powder. Since they fired in the SAA, you might shorten some 45Long Colt brass and load your own because original ammo
    gets collectors' prices these days.
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  • hrf
    Have seen one of these, and a later model too, that had a blown chamber, maybe from use of .455 ammo
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  • john carr
    You can shorten .45 Colt cases to make .450 Webley, but they tell me you have to thin the rim. I've got the specs somewhere if you're interested. When thinning the rim it must be thinned at the bottom of the rim, otherwise it will interfere with your primer seating.
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  • hrf
    For those curious about these mongrels, I have compiled enough data to clarify production periods and serial numbering. Results and photos may be viewed at http://members.aol.com/hrftx/TBBD.htm (just updated). Additional serial numbers and details welcome (source and location will remain anonymous).
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by hrf
    For those curious about these mongrels, I have compiled enough data to clarify production periods and serial numbering. Results and photos may be viewed at http://members.aol.com/hrftx/TBBD.htm (just updated). Additional serial numbers and details welcome (source and location will remain anonymous).




    Excellent research, first rate reference. Thank you.
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