mauser pistol
I aquired a mauser pistol from my grandfather. It is in almost perfect condition with leather holster and extra mag. The only markings on it is where it was made, the patent and the serial number all on the left side of the slide. I believe it is a model 1910 or a 1934, the serial number is 48XX. It doesn't have a caliber on the right side like the rest I've seen. I was wondering what caliber it was and if it would handle modern loads. I am also interested in what it would cost even tho I am not interested in selling it.
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A friend wishes to know approximate value of this pistol.
mauser- 7,65 on right side of slide
235401 WAFFENFABRIK MAUSER A.G.ORBENDORF A.N. MAUSER'S PATENT on left side
401 0n action just above trigger and on the bottom of both mags with 1&2 on 1st and second mag.
L.A. 94 on front of grip and also stamped on back of leather holster.
Barrel length is 86mm
It has original blueing and is in 80-90% condition.
Suposedly taken from a german officer in Paris toward the end of WW II
what is it? value and age???
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"IF"? you do indeed have a Mauser Model 1910? The serial number you gave ( If accurate ?), would put it in the first production run.
This is the rare and desirable varation called the "Humpback".
It would probably be chambered for the common, .32 Automatic/7.65 x 17mm cartridge.
If it is a "Humpback"? I wouldn't be shooting it! As something unforeseen could happen, and you would be pissing big bucks down the drain.
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Here's a picture a got from Bob Simson's excellent site. www.simsonltd.com
Note, that the top of the slide is NOT a single flat surface. This is what defines a "Humpback"0 -
The proper 1910 is a 6.35 or .25ACP. The proper 1914 is a 7.65 or .32ACP.
The 1934 can be either although most are assocated with the .32
I own a 1910, serial number 3099. The first 5000 are known by collectors as the Sidelatch variation due to the small fingernail latch on the left side.
I also own a 4000 range 1914, however it is not of the Humpback variation. They were produced a little earlier so I doubt if you have a Humpback.
Let me know which one you have and I can better tell you about it.
For reference, see Penders MAUSER POCKET PISTOLS.
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quote:Originally posted by p3skyking
I also own a 4000 range 1914, however it is not of the Humpback variation. They were produced a little earlier so I doubt if you have a Humpback.
Does your 1914 ( 4000 Range ), have caliber markings on the right side of frame?
Roy Penders Book "Mauser Pocket Pistols 1910-1946" has been out of print for years, it's only sporadically available from vintage book dealers for $200 +, a pop.0 -
The picture that defined a humpback is what I have. There are no markings on the right side of the slide. The serial numbers are in the 4000 range and all numbers match. It hasn't been fired since my grandfather picked it up. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by major6427
The picture that defined a humpback is what I have. There are no markings on the right side of the slide. The serial numbers are in the 4000 range and all numbers match. It hasn't been fired since my grandfather picked it up.
"IF" your Humpback is in "Factory Original", "Excellent Condition" it's probably worth at a minimum $2,0000 -
There is a small amount of blueing rubbed off at the end of the barrel, I would say it is in about 95%. 0 -
Major,
The Humpbacks were only made to the 3000 range. From then on, what is known as the Early 1914's were produced (if it is .32)
The only difference between the Humpback and Early 1914 is the slight rise on the aft end of the slide. There will be no right side marking on either of those weapons.
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So how can I find out what year it was made and how much it is worth? 0 -
I wrote to Mauser Jadgwaffen early in '71 wanting to know the very same thing!
They replied that due to the war (duh? I or II, they didn't say.) all records were lost.
By comparison with other collectors and the books that have emerged since that time, my 4000 range weapon (we estimate) was made in 1914 or early 15.
I would guess yours is about the same. Due to losses, all the early numbered Mausers are valued. Without seeing your rig it would be hard to say. In 90% condition, I would venture the basic weapon would fetch around $325 to $450 depending on the buyer.
With the extra mag and holster, add about a C-note or so.
Nice weapons! You can search "Mauser Pistol" on Gunbroker and/or other sites for confirmation of ID and value. Don't just rely on one though. Visit several listings. A lot of "Sellers" are just that, they're not collectors and are sometimes in error on what they are actually selling.
Best,
Mike
BTW: Aw Rufe, your pullin' my leg again about Pender's book goin' for $200. I only paid $30 dollars for my copy of Mauser Pocket Pistols. I think I bought it in '82 though.
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If you have a 1910 6.35mm (.25ACP) pistol, it will be 5.4 inches long, stand 4 inches high, and weigh about 15 ounces empty. If it is a 1914 model in 7.65mm (.32ACP), it will be 4.5 inches long, stand 4.5 inches high, and weigh about 21 ounces empty. A ruler across the end of the barrel will show either about 1/4 inch or 1/3 inch. This would be a fast way to determine model type. Per Pender on page 95, 'At serial number 3001, the humpback feature was omitted' and the 1914 pistol was in its final basic form. Serial number of the humpbacks started at either 1 or 100. Do not be confused by the 'hump' created by the slide where the barrel slides in. The humpback model had a 'hump' on the slide itself as shown in that picture from Bob Simson.
If the serial number is 48xx and it is a 1910, it must be a sidelatch model and have what appears to be a slotted latch embedded in the side plate just above the trigger on the left side of the frame. If it is indeed a 1914 model, the sideplate on the left side of the frame will not show this embedded latch but will have a curve in the rear edge as it slides up and out of the frame for disassembly after the slide is removed.0
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