Help with luger
I am trying to locate a luger that was in my family, it was sold in the 50's in Detroit. I have the serial number, it is on a paper that allowed my relative to bring it back with him from the War.There were also some other markings on it and they were "type p.m. 37" followed by the caliber of cal. 7.65. I know its like trying to find the needle in the haystack , but its worth a try. Thanks for any help.I can be reached at ffray16@earthlink.net
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Unfortunately the serial number isn't going to do you much good.
The Germans didn't serial number their military firearms consecutively, like we did.
Every 1000 they would start over at number 1 with a different lower case letter added to the serial number. When they ran through the alphabet, they would go back and start over with the lower case "a"
The only way you can be really sure with the paper work you have, is if it gives you the lower case letter along with the numerals, also the date or date code thats marked on the Luger.
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quote:Originally posted by DETROIT COWBOY
I am trying to locate a luger that was in my family, it was sold in the 50's in Detroit. I have the serial number, it is on a paper that allowed my relative to bring it back with him from the War.There were also some other markings on it and they were "type p.m. 37" followed by the caliber of cal. 7.65. I know its like trying to find the needle in the haystack , but its worth a try. Thanks for any help.I can be reached at ffray16@earthlink.net
I was rereading your post. If the information given in the paper work you have, is correct? I don't think the pistol your relative brought home from the war was a luger.
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quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
Unfortunately the serial number isn't going to do you much good.
The Germans didn't serial number their military firearms consecutively, like we did.
Every 1000 they would start over at number 1 with a different lower case letter added to the serial number. When they ran through the alphabet, they would go back and start over with the lower case "a"
Rufe,
Actually it's every 10,000 that the suffix is changed. You won't see an "a" added until after 9999 then it goes to 0001a.
Late in the war (both) have I heard of a weapon numbered 10,000, but this was a fluke.
If production did manage to get though the alphabet in a single calender year (as happened in both wars), they would double the suffix as in 0001aa.
A manufacturer would only need to produce 270,000 (remarkable!., The initial 9999, plus every letter suffix) to go double suffix. Only the largest manufacturers could do this.
I would tend to agree about the Femaru being the bringback rather than a Luger. Cowboy, you should post the serno you are looking for. I have a Femaru as do most collectors. You might get lucky.
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Hey Rufe and Skyking are you guys on the LugerForum? www.lugerfourm.com
It seems you both have a combined knowledge of Lugers. Lots of info on that forum. I'm a Luger owner (4), 1916 Artillery 8" bbl with rig, 1906 Swiss "Cross in Shield", 1914 (1917) Erfurt and a 1920 Commercial 6" bbl.
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quote:Originally posted by Ballistic
Hey Rufe and Skyking are you guys on the LugerForum? www.lugerfourm.com
It seems you both have a combined knowledge of Lugers. Lots of info on that forum. I'm a Luger owner (4), 1916 Artillery 8" bbl with rig, 1906 Swiss "Cross in Shield", 1914 (1917) Erfurt and a 1920 Commercial 6" bbl.
Do you guys collect them?
Ballistic,
I'm on Jan Still's site. Yes, I collect them a bit. Got a Arty 1915 DWM with stock and snail drum, a 1918 Erfurt, a byf42 (plus a P.38 byf42!), and a 1920 commercial in 7.65. Your 1920 long is kind of rare. Is it in 9?0 -
Nice collection p3Skyking. The snail drum with stock attached makes for an awesome looking rig.
No the 1920 is 7.65mm (30)it's a DWM, SN4292 letter 'a" under SN, germany stamped on bbl adn under SN plus other markings, crown over N, etc.
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Nah, I was an Aircrew Ordnanceman. Made sure all ordnance left the A/C when it was supposed to.
You have a nice collection yourself. The Arty's are pretty hard to find reasonable. Don't think I've ever seen a long barrel commercial except in books. I don't have a loader for the snail yet. They (the Germans) really did need them, I can only get about 14 rounds in without one.
Sorry about hijacking the thread Cowboy.
Best,
Mike
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Thanks for the input, the serial number is 73632 0 -
Cowboy,
I put your serno out on a couple of sites with your handle here as point of contact. Good luck in your search.
Be sure your email link from here is current.
Best,
Mike
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