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  • JudgeColt
    A military Colt Model 1909 should have wood stocks (Colt calls them stocks, not grips), and should be in .45 Colt chambering. Without access to my files, I cannot check, but I do not think the Model 1909 was ever chambered in anything except .45 Colt. (I do not recall any British Models 1909.) The regular New Service was chambered in .455 Eley, and hard rubber stocks are correct for most of NS procduction.

    Correct wood Model 1909 stocks are extremely rare, and would be expensive if offered by a knowledgeable seller. Original hard rubber stocks are also rare and expensive, although reproductions are offered.
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  • griz
    Per 2004 Blue Book of Gun Values:

    COLT NEW SERVICE MODEL

    ".38 Spl., .357 Mag., 38-40 WCF, 44-40 WCF, 44 Russian, 44 Spl., 45 ACP, .45 LC, 450 Eley, .455 Eley, or .456 Eley cals. 4, 5, or 6 in. barrrel in .357 Mag and .38 Spl., 4 1/2, 5 1/2, and 7 1/2 in. barrel in all others, blue or nickel finish, bright blue finish was used through circa 1916, originally hard rubber grips (until approx. late '20s), with later guns having walnut grips with medallions. Mfg, 1898-1942."
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  • JudgeColt
    What does the Blue Book listing for the commercial models have to do with the military Model 1909 listings? Did you post that quote as "proof" that the Model 1909 should have hard rubber stocks?

    Again I caution the use of the Blue Book for anything but a guide. The Colt section is full of errors and generalities. It should not be relied upon as "proof" of any particular feature.

    Just because a Colt New Service happens to have been made in 1909 does not make it a Model 1909. Perhaps that is the source of the confusion. Guns are generally not like cars where the year of manufacture often identifies the model.

    A Model 1909 has wood stocks. To verify, check a real Colt reference work such as "The Book of Colt Firearms" or "Colt New Service Revolvers."

    It would be very interesting to learn how a World War I veteran acquired a commercial New Service in .455 Elay while serving in WWI, presumably in Europe. As I suspected, there is no reference in any source I found stating that the Model 1909 was ever made in any chambering except .45 Colt. I suppose it is possible that a Model 1909-marked frame was rebarreled and recylindered (new word?) in .455 Elay, but probably not by Colt, and certainly not during WWI when the guns were obsolete and full production was devoted to the Model 1917 and Model 1911 needed for the war effort.
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