Para Ordnance-Yes or no
I have a chance to pick up a very very lightly used Para Ordnance P16.40 LTD. that's stainless and obviously in the .40 cal in the 1911 style. Should I or shouldn't I and what do you think that it would be worth roughly? Is it going to last and how does it rate as far as reliability and other things I should look for when purchasing a hand gun? Is it better, worse or equal to H&K or S&W or how does it rate overall? Can I get some help here guys? I'm basically taking what you guys say and going to go look for a gun so honesty and all information is welcome. Thanks.
J.D.C
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Let Me give You my considered opinion: If I was in the market for a new hand Gun, and did'nt have a clue as to what I wanted....I'd trot My Buns down to the Local Shooting Range or Indoor Range and watch the different shooters and see if there's something there that interests me...Then Offer the Guy a few bucks for the privilage of shooting his gun!...[You have to pay Him for the Ammo your gonna be shooting]... After YOU have fired several different guns your gonna have a whole new insight...You'll find that some of the guns you're interested in won't fit your Hand or the Sights are not to your liking or the muzzle blast is liking to blow your nose for you...There's just No way you can take anyones opinion about whats right for you...Only You can do that...I had a Cop Buddy of mine in Arizona telling Me I just had to have Ruger P-89...Occording to Him, it was the best gun ever made...I finally grabbed him by the hand and we hauled butt to our favorite Sand Wash...Where I found, I cound'nt hit anything with it! The Grip was to Wide for My Hand...and was'nt comfortable with how My finger laid along side the trigger......The sights and my poor old tired Eyes did'nt agree either...Glad I shot His and did'nt go buy one first...just to find out that it was'nt for me...anyway...enough from your Old Captain...I'll step down from My Soap Box now...Do as You wish...and may You have Good Luck in your search......
Captain Kirk, Tech Staff0 -
Not much to add to the "Capt." comments except that many indoor ranges not only sell guns they have rentals. If you go in and tell them what your trying to do they should be able to help you focus in on some things and then you can rent a model that interests you.
If I sense a person is serious about buying I've often just taken a rental out of the case, escorted them to an open station on the range and let them try a few rounds ... only charging them for the ammo. Just taking a rough guess I'd say about 70% end up buying from us, but in most of those cases the gun purchased is not the first gun tried ... more like the 3rd or 4th[:D]
If you only have time to do two things so-so, or one thing well ... do the one thing!0 -
Captain Kirk:
Very well put!0 -
http://www.paraord.com/pages/ltdhighcap.html#1640
If you can only put ten round mags in it, you are paying for a lot of dead space.
Not sure of the price; can't find list. At least $550...
Buy new, and get lifetime warranty.
40S&W is a nice caliber.
ADDENDUM: Yup, liked the note about "fitting the hand". AND EVEN MORE the note about "if it is a good deal". I've bought three guns too nice (price) to pass up. Even if it does not fit you properly, if the price is right, you can always get ALL of your money back, including taxes/transfer fees in applicable. Say, $400 would be a GREAT price.
These are the "Extras" on that model
Full-length recoil guide system eliminates spring blind.
Beavertail grip safety with palm swell improves grip and ensures positive safety deactivation.
Ambidextrous safety facilities southpaw or "weak hand" shooting.
Adjustable rear sight provides improved accuracy.
Dovetailed front sight easily adjusted for precise accuracy.
Competition hammer speeds ignition.
Lowered, contoured ejection port provides clean, reliable ejection.
Front and rear slide serrations make for easier slide retraction (P14-45/P16-40/P13-45).
Trigger overtravel stop eliminates backlash; tuned trigger enhances performance.
Ramped, match-grade barrel ensures optimum accuracy and consistently reliable feeding.0 -
Hand gun rule number one. Does it fit your hand? If it doesn't then it could be free and still not be worth it. The only thing to consider when buying a handgun is does it fit your hand. Can you easily reach the trigger?
Do not, under any circumstances, listen to a cop. Good guys, but they are notorious for extremely unsafe usage of firerams in general, never mind handguns.0 -
I am also new to the hand gun world and had the same questions. I have handled the LDA I like the feel but still unsure about the trigger. I have found that I like the 1911 style pistols but that is not what I own. The more you handle the more you will learn. If it is for a carry pistol you should get something that you will be comfortable with carrying. I know that goes with out saying but it is prob the second most important thing to consider. The first is how does it feel and shoot. If you cant carry it is does you no good. I am looking for a new pistol but that is always. I carry a kel-tec 32 and a styer 40m. I love the styer and the trigger is great. It is not a common gun but it has a lot of safety features I like. They still make them there was a rumor that they had stopped but it is not true. The kel-tec is so little that I can take it with me every where it is smaller than my wallet but not a big caliber but is with me all the time. AGAIN you need to handle a several guns and find one that fits. I love the browning high power but it is heavy. I also am new to this so my opinion and $.50 will get you a phone call 0 -
I'm going to come at this from a different way , 1st off what every one else has said is very good info , now for my way of looking at it , there are 2 IF's that need to be answered!
first off IF the gun is a good deal ie low price and a good quality gun which the Para is and IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO PLAY WITH , then go ahead and buy it, take it home and run several( at least 3 or 4 ) boxes thru it and see how it fits, whether you like the way it feels and how it comes up on target for you , if you like it keep it, if not just clean it up and sell it , you should have no problem getting your money back. best part is you just had fun trying out a different gun0 -
LIKE MY PARA LDA IN .45. would be a good deal for under $500. but the capt. sounds like a wise man! great advise.
"HONOR IS BETTER THAN HONORS"
"KEEP THE SKEER ON"0 -
quote:Originally posted by Contender Man
Not much to add to the "Capt." comments except that many indoor ranges not only sell guns they have rentals. If you go in and tell them what your trying to do they should be able to help you focus in on some things and then you can rent a model that interests you.
If I sense a person is serious about buying I've often just taken a rental out of the case, escorted them to an open station on the range and let them try a few rounds ... only charging them for the ammo. Just taking a rough guess I'd say about 70% end up buying from us, but in most of those cases the gun purchased is not the first gun tried ... more like the 3rd or 4th[:D]
If you only have time to do two things so-so, or one thing well ... do the one thing!
Only thing with me is that I don't have any indoor ranges or any rental places that I can rent a gun to try one out first. I would have to buy one first and then try it. I have changed my mind I think. I have held and looked at alot of guns and liked the way the following guns have fit in my hand-Beretta .40 m96 stainless, H&K USP9 or .40 cal in either the compact or full size, Sig in the .40 or 9mm, and pretty much all 1911 models. Let me know what you guys think since I like the way all of those guns feel when just holding.
"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was convincing the world, he didn't exist" -Keyser Soze
J.D.C0 -
We really don't know what you want the gun for. Target shooting? Point shooting? Self defense? Concealed Carry / Target shooting?
40S&W is a great caliber. Not to expensive; plenty of "bang".
I'd let the hand decide. Double stack or single stack.
Colt 10191 (1991 stainless 5" brl) is a nice 1911 starter gun.
That Para is a good gun and will probably shoot like a dream.
40S&W with a full-size grip and all that stainless makes recoil melt away.0 -
Rule number one when it comes to handguns. Does it fit your hand? Nothing else matters. If you can't easily reach the trigger, it doesn't fit. 0 -
I just have to interject my experience(on this one topic) with this, Brownells sells replacement triggers that come short, med. and long. It's for the people that like the Para line, and their finger length is a issue. My[:D][:D]cents. 0
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