Fouling shot
Is there any way that I can avoid having to fire a fouling shot so that my rifle is shooting accurately ? Once my rifles are zeroed in they only hold there zero after cleaning if I fire[:(!] a fouling shot. I have thought of zeroing and cleaning the bore after each shot but I suspect that if I do that each consequtive shot afte the first shot from a clean bore would be off. Know what I'm talking about ?
leafrivermac
leafrivermac
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Yup - Something common to all firearms. Bullets will impact differently from a clean bore as opposed to a fouled bore. This is why benchresters will shoot 2 or 3 shots before starting to shoot for accuracy.
When getting ready for hunting, my firearms will be shot to assure zero settings, then left fouled until the end of the hunt. Normally a very fussy gun cleaner, it bothers me to let them stay fouled for so long, but it's better from the accuracy standpoint.
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Not uncommon. Just do as previously advised and fire a couple rounds prior to beginning any precision shooting. 
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My rifles that I shoot at the range every week never need a
fouling shot.I don't oil my barrels.They are always dead on
first shot.
Do tactical marksmen leave their rifles fouled, so that they
are on????
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Juddroy,
You raise a very good point, but in doing so you say your first shot is right on. Are the 2nd and following right on the same point or is there a subtle shift, all other things being equal.
It is my impression (and I could have read something into the post that I shouldn't have as there wasn't a lot of detail) that we were talking about bench rest work, and the quest for the "smallest single hole".
Tactical marksmen have very high maint. standards for their rifles and I am sure that those bores are spotless. Lubed, un-lubed ... probably varries by the preference of each individual and they practice in a wide arry of tactical situations with the objective of having their weapon sighted as true as can be ... but that world and the bench rest world are different. The subtle shift of the impact that would drive a BR shooter up the wall is generally not of any real concern in the tactical world.
Now with all of that out of the way ... if the poster is not talking about BR or similar "one hole" shooting, then we need to understand exactly how much of a shift he is talking about and if it is of an appreciable amount then his rifle needs to checked out before he sets out on a deliberate course of action to eliminate other possible causes.
But again you raise a good point by brining in another perspective. That's why this forum is as good as it is ... many eyes and thoughts to a given question/issue.
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Contender Man ,I didn't get the impression that this
person was a bench shooter.Maybe my mistake.I shoot a cz
527 .223 with an HS Precision stock, and always get 3/4 moa
groups.I clean after the 9th shot. I wouldn't hold a candle to
some of the bench shooters I see,but my set up was only $1300,
not in the multiple thousands.
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Nope . .I'm not any kind of fancy shooter. I do fire from a bench when sighting in a rifle. My fouling shot point on the targets vary from 1-2 inches , depending on which rifle I shoot. I clean the bore of my rifles with a bore cleaner, until my patches come thru clean and then I run dry patches thru several times. I then use a patch with a very lighty oiled patch and then run a clean dry patch thru a couple of times. If you know a better way I would like to concider your opinion. Thanks
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quote:Originally posted by leafrivermac
[I then use a patch with a very lighty oiled patch and then run a clean dry patch thru a couple of times.
leafrivermac
Try it without the oil patch,and see then what happens, or if you are not shooting regularly, run some gunscrubber on a patch to remove the oil and make sure you run a few dry patches through.That will probably eliminate your problem.It is nothing for that little bit oil
to take your shot off 1-2".
hope that works for ya
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Police marksman (at least those I know) leave the barrel fouled to be assured of POI. Not heavily fouled,..but cleaned then "fouled-in".
All my barrels, even my benchrest rifles are cleaned every time. The fouling shots are used to test the wind and POI adjustments during your "sight in" period,..so they are of no consequence in the "match" targets. I do leave my hunting barrels fouled until the season is over,..just at stated by other members.
why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
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I found that my M94 in .44 magnum will print about 2" high at 50 yards with the first shot from a cold, clean barrel. I always run a patch soaked with lighter fluid through first to remove any lubricant from the bore. Subsequent shots will print to point of aim and I am also a devotee of leaving the barrel fouled until after the hunt. 0
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