Kentucky Rifle-Pennsylvania Rifle
I am wanting to buy a (New) Smokepole.Probably $500 or less.Either Kentucky Style or Pennsylvania Style.
One with the long stock running way out to the end of barrel and with the butt of the stock curved downward quite a bit.I would also like a very fast twist rate for shooting conical bullets.
Anyone have ideas on Web-Sites I might search or maybe Phone No's. for Catalogs ?
1-Powder
2-Patch
3-Ball
4-Remove the Rod
5-Do Not Forget the Cap.
One with the long stock running way out to the end of barrel and with the butt of the stock curved downward quite a bit.I would also like a very fast twist rate for shooting conical bullets.
Anyone have ideas on Web-Sites I might search or maybe Phone No's. for Catalogs ?
1-Powder
2-Patch
3-Ball
4-Remove the Rod
5-Do Not Forget the Cap.
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Dixie has a Pennsylvania Rifle, good drop to the stock like you want. It is .45. The rifle is $550, kit is $450.
It has a 1:48 twist.
Navy Arms has a Kentucky rifle, about the same specs but shorter barrel, at 35 1/2 inches. $475.
This is from last years catalog, but I doubt prices have changed much, Dixie Gun Works.
You will have a hard time finding this rifle in a faster twist than 1:48.
The Lyman Great Plains Hunter is a good looking gun with 1:32 twist but it is Hawken style.0 -
I do like that Model of Lyman.I may buy that if I can't find a faster twist in a Kentucky Rifle.I really want to stay with 50 Cal.
Hope someone here can help.0 -
A long barreled 45 can easily have more energy than a short 50... more time to burn the powder completely, and unlike in a conventional rifle there isn't nearly as much parasitic drag on the bullet. The other advantage is the longer sighting plane=more accuracy. The loang barrel in most cases doesn't hurt weight because a .45 can be built with a 13/16 barrel, where a .50 takes at least 7/8".
My border collie is smarter than your honor student.0 -
Here is another trick.
Do you have a TC Hawken? If not, keep your eyes out for one used, that has a rusted barrel. There are lots of these around, should be able to get one for $150 or so. If you are lucky, find one with a rusted barrel and busted stock for $50.
Green Mountain makes a drop in barrel with a 1:28 twist, $150.
Then, you go to Pecatonica River. They make a replacement stock for the TC Hawken that is already inletted. This stock is full length, because in the early days the Hawken stocks were full lenght and they went to half stocks later on.
This stock is inletted for lock,patchbox, and barrel. You have to install buttplate, but, this lets you make your exact length of pull. Also you have to sand and finish it. This stock is about $150.
So there you are for $450 with an authentic full length stock early model Hawken that shoots slugs.
You may already know this, but Green Mountain barrels are top of the line.
I have to go along with Richbug on the power of the .45 slug.
The great buffalo rifle was the .45-70. Yes it was a cartridge gun but it was a big .45 slug with 70 grains of black powder, pretty easy to duplicate in a muzzleloader.
The .45 slug has better long range performance than a .50
I have never shot a slug in a 1:48 but I hear they are pretty accurate.
ps I had a Penn. style rifle once. Have you ever shot one of those? That "Roman Nose" style stock knocked hell out of my cheek bone, I got tired of shooting it and gave it to my mother to hang on the wall.0
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