M1 Garand trigger guard question?
I've been bitten by the 'M1 Garand' bug and have bought 2 in the last month from the CMP. One is a SA made in '44 and the other is a H&R made in '54. The trigger guards are different. One of them has a round hole just behind the trigger.
Can someone explain the reason for the difference? Age? Year? etc.
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Can someone explain the reason for the difference? Age? Year? etc.
"If they won't give us good terms, come back and we'll fight it out."
-- Gen. James Longstreet
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The one with the round hole is early. You could slip a rod through the hole to aid with removal.
Use it on your Springfield.
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As noted by P3skyking, the one with the hole was earlier, and is a milled part, whereas the later ones were stamped. The one with the hole would go with your Springfield, and the other with the H&R. A generalization would be WW II and earlier, and Korean War and later. 0 -
I'm sitting in an internet cafe in Sofia Bulgaria but even from 8,000 miles away I can't pass up on an M1 Garand question! As has already been mentioned the round hole in what is known as the milled trigger gaurd represented the original design. During WWII it became clear that there were a number of different methods available to simplify the production of the M1 rilfe which would allow for lower costs to the government as well as speeding production. By 1944 a stamped trigger gaurd was designed which proved to be just as sturdy as the milled gaurd with a savings in both man hours as well as cash.
The stamped guard also offered an advantage in the field in that the gaurd itself could be bent in slightly to allow for a tighter bite between the rifle and the trigger assembly, something not possible with the milled gaurds which often would not latch up tightly once the rifle had begun to show heavy use and wear. Springfield and Winchester used both milled and stamped types during WWII, but all post war production used the later stamped gaurd (of which there a a few minor variations in the latch of the gaurd itself. The stamped gaurd was not considered to be such an improvement over the original milled gaurd that it mandated a total replacement of all existing rifle (unlike the improved rear sight or modified operating rod). Instead milled gaurds, although no londer in production, remained in service through out the life of the M1 rifle and many post war rebuilds of WWII production rifles retained their milled trigger gaurds.
Mark T. Christian0 -
I was wondering when the right answer would pop up. Mark, as usual has the answer when it comes to M1's.
The only advice I have for him today is-- Watch out for the Kirschwasser!! Specially if the roads are still icey!!
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Sorry, DGJ, overlooked your post in looking for Mark's!!
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The round hole also has another function. It is used to mount the "Winter Trigger." Check out the following link: http://www.civilianmarksmanship.com/accessoryhtml/accwintertrig.html
There is another variation of the Winter Trigger that is detailed in one of the Department of the Army manuals that I have. I will provide the reference when I have a chance to dig it up.
Hope this helps.
Andrew Spilberg0
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