Snub Nose 44 ?British Bull-Dog?
This is a SS 44 five shot double action revolver with a 2-1/4" barrel. It has hard rubber grips. Only markings are "Clement Arms Co" on the barrel and "British Bull-Dog". There is a "14" above the trigger and "25" on the chamber. Can someone give a value range and a little info on this gun?
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dwr
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dwr
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The Clement I found in my references was a Belgian manufacturer, ( circa 1880 - 1910 ) who sold inexpensive "knock-off" revolvers under various tradenames.
Your revolver was patterned after the original Webley "The British Bull Dog" made from the 1870's until World War I.
More then likely there will be Belgian proof marks on your revolver that will verify the above. If there are no Belgian proofs, it's probably a Spanish made, knock-off of a knock-off.
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Ok, the proof it a "T" with a star above it. Is that a Belgian proof?
Man I would hate to have a knock-off of a knock-off. [:D]0 -
I believe it was the gun used to kill President Garfield and which in effect placed Vice President Theodore Roosevelt into the Presidency. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by fishermanben
I believe it was the gun used to kill President Garfield and which in effect placed Vice President Theodore Roosevelt into the Presidency.
That is correct.
Mateomasfeo
"I am what I am!" - Popeye0 -
It was the same type gun used to kill President Garfield(in 1881 I believe), but I thought Teddy R. became President when President McKinnley was shot in 1901 ????............Sometimes my memory plays tricks on me though.........................[8D] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by temblor
It was the same type gun used to kill President Garfield(in 1881 I believe), but I thought Teddy R. became President when President McKinnley was shot in 1901 ????............Sometimes my memory plays tricks on me though.........................[8D]
You are correct, sir.0 -
quote:Originally posted by dwr111
Ok, the proof it a "T" with a star above it. Is that a Belgian proof?
Man I would hate to have a knock-off of a knock-off. [:D]
You lucked out! The "T with a star above it" is the proof mark used by a specific Belgian inspector,i.e. different inspectors different letters.
There should also be a proof on the cylinder of the revolver of a ( oval with the letters E L G in it, surmounted by a crown ). This was the standard Belgian excess pressure proof.0 -
"There should also be a proof on the cylinder of the revolver of a ( oval with the letters E L G in it, surmounted by a crown ). This was the standard Belgian excess pressure proof."
I have same Clement marked gun and has ELG in oval on rear cylinder face, but no crown (the crown indicates a stronger proof test initiated ca. 1891.0 -
quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
You lucked out! The "T with a star above it" is the proof mark used by a specific Belgian inspector,i.e. different inspectors different letters.
There should also be a proof on the cylinder of the revolver of a ( oval with the letters E L G in it, surmounted by a crown ). This was the standard Belgian excess pressure proof.
Thanks rufe, and yes it does have ELG stamped on the cylinder as well as the T and star. Can you give a estimate of value range?
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quote:Originally posted by dwr111 Originally posted by rufe-snow
Thanks rufe, and yes it does have ELG stamped on the cylinder as well as the T and star. Can you give a estimate of value range?
dwr
From your first post, "This is a SS 44 five shot double action revolver" it seems the finish has been removed ( polished bright? ).
And the the metric cartridge ( blackpowder probably ) it's chambered for is unknown.
It would have minimal collector's value, my WAG is that it's worth between $100 - $200, depending on cosmetics?
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quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
From your first post, "This is a SS 44 five shot double action revolver" it seems the finish has been removed ( polished bright? ).
And the the metric cartridge ( blackpowder probably ) it's chambered for is unknown.
It would have minimal collector's value, my WAG is that it's worth between $100 - $200, depending on cosmetics?
Ok, thanks. As usual, you've been a great help!
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"And the the metric cartridge ( blackpowder probably ) it's chambered for is unknown."
It's chambered for the .44 Webley ctg., US version of .442 British, and will also use the shorter .44 Bull Dog round, both obsolete black powder cartridges0
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