Shipping ammo
Okay I read the sticky on it. From what I get from it and what I have been told over the years,
shipping live ammo via the USPS is illegal.
Then my question is; if it is illegal then how are the big sellers on the auction side
getting away with shipping ammo via USPS?
They state they ship USPS and the shipping price they are giving is for Priority Mail.
I know because I know what UPS charges and there is no way I can charge $6 - $7 less to match their shipping price
on the same ammo via UPS.
I now understand why we do not sell as much ammo even though our price for the auction is within line with the rest.
Our shipping cost kills it because we ship within the law.
shipping live ammo via the USPS is illegal.
Then my question is; if it is illegal then how are the big sellers on the auction side
getting away with shipping ammo via USPS?
They state they ship USPS and the shipping price they are giving is for Priority Mail.
I know because I know what UPS charges and there is no way I can charge $6 - $7 less to match their shipping price
on the same ammo via UPS.
I now understand why we do not sell as much ammo even though our price for the auction is within line with the rest.
Our shipping cost kills it because we ship within the law.
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What are rules for shipping ammo sold on Gun Broker?
Can ammo be shipped in same box with a pistol??0 -
UPS ground shouldn't be more than $50 if you put in 2 separate packages to keep it under 70 pounds.
My border collie is smarter than your honor student.0 -
UPS as ORM-D is your best bet, and break up the shipment into at least two packages.
Suprised FedEx quoted you a price as I thought all of their stuff traveled by air for at least part of the journey and ammo has to travel by ground. Oh well, ya learn something new every day.
If you only have time to do two things so-so, or one thing well ... do the one thing!0 -
Gotta go with the other guys.....UPS in two packages!
"meet me in Margaritaville"0 -
Ship in two packages as suggested. Check FedEx Ground rates (again) on two 50 lb packages; usually (but not always) they are slightly less expensive than UPS. $3.50 a pound sounds like air freight and you cannot ship live ammo via air legally with any carrier.
"There is nothing lower than the human race - except the French." (Mark Twain) ". . . And DemoCraps" (me)0 -
i apologize for not being specific earlier, the shipment cant go ground cause ups doesn't do ground to alaska, i think fed ex charged so much cause of the air service...[V]
WordBorn!!0 -
Now mentioning the little detail about Alaska would have helped.
However, I still don't think the ammo can go by air. I think it is still a surface shipment by ship or by bonded truck because the vehicle would have to pass through a portion of Canada.
Shipping anything to/from Alaska is not a cheap proposition.
The forum has a couple very knowledgeable Alaskan residents, and you might be better served by making another post specific to shipping ammo to Alaska.
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quote:Originally posted by Iconoclast
Ship in two packages as suggested. Check FedEx Ground rates (again) on two 50 lb packages; usually (but not always) they are slightly less expensive than UPS. $3.50 a pound sounds like air freight and you cannot ship live ammo via air legally with any carrier.
"There is nothing lower than the human race - except the French." (Mark Twain) ". . . And DemoCraps" (me)0 -
quote:Originally posted by Iconoclast
Ship in two packages as suggested. Check FedEx Ground rates (again) on two 50 lb packages; usually (but not always) they are slightly less expensive than UPS. $3.50 a pound sounds like air freight and you cannot ship live ammo via air legally with any carrier.
Ammunition certanly can be shipped by air. It just costs more than the ammo is worth.0 -
Here is a great opportunity to learn reloading. 0 -
Below is Straight from FedEx. Note the statement about CONUS ONLY!
Now if you want to further split the hair go get CFR 49 and read to your hearts content.
Then come back to the underlying fact that shipping to Alaska if not cheap and for some things it just plain ain't worth it. As advised before, do a post specific to shipping ammo to Alaska and accept the advise of the people that live there ...
**** FedEx Excerpt ****
Service Info
Hazardous Materials for FedEx Ground
FedEx Ground accepts certain hazardous materials for ground transport within the continental U.S. only.
Before tendering your shipments to us, make sure they are labeled, marked, classified and packaged according to government rules and regulations.
See additional information for details on allowable hazardous material and prohibited hazardous materials, critical additional guidelines, and packaging, labeling, and
documentation requirements.
Hazardous materials prepared for shipment via FedEx Ground cannot be shipped internationally, nor can they be dropped off at any FedEx location.
If you have questions about whether a particular commodity is acceptable, or the U.S. Department of Transportation requirements for packaging and labeling, call (800) 762-3725.
FedEx holds one-day hazardous materials shipping seminars throughout the U.S. See Hazardous Materials Training Seminars for more information.
See Ground Tariff for details.
Additional Information on Shipping Hazardous Materials
FedEx Ground accepts certain hazardous materials for ground transport within the continental U.S. only. Please read this section carefully to see if your items are acceptable for ground transport.
Before tendering your shipments to us, make sure they are labeled, marked, classified and packaged according to the rules and regulations in the code of federal regulations (49 CFR) published by the Department of Transportation (D.O.T.). Failure to comply may result in criminal and/or civil penalties.
Allowable Hazardous Materials
You may ship the following hazardous materials via FedEx Ground within the continental U.S. only. The "class" is the D.O.T. classification.
Class 1.4* Explosives (label as Explosive 1.4)
Class 1.6 Extremely Insensitive (label as Explosive 1.6)
Class 2.1 Flammable Gas
Class 2.2 Non-Flammable Gas
Class 3 Flammable Liquid
Class 4.1 Flammable Solid
Class 5.1 Oxidizer
Class 5.2 Organic Peroxide
Class 7 Radioactive Material I (label as Radioactive White I)
Class 8 Corrosive Material (label as Corrosive)
Class 9 Miscellaneous Hazardous Materials
ORM-D Consumer Commodity and cartridges, small arms
* Except fireworks.
If you only have time to do two things so-so, or one thing well ... do the one thing!0 -
EOD Guy -
Please note:
quote:you cannot ship live ammo via air legally (emphasis added) with any carrier.
I have received shipments of live ammo via air freight and mail from folks who didn't know better or simply chose to violate the law*, so I know it can be done. If one should be caught, however, the penalties for violating Federal laws on any given issue can greatly outweigh the cost savings . . . just ask Martha Stewart. Your comment could land some otherwise innocent party in a whole heap of trouble.
(*including one instance in which a common carrier mailed a package to the recipient from the receiving terminal rather than drive to an extremely rural area of the West to deliver it in accordance with their contract and the law! The USPS climbed all over them on that one.)
"There is nothing lower than the human race - except the French." (Mark Twain) ". . . And DemoCraps" (me)0 -
This thread will probably be locked soon.
You'd might want to post a new one with the title "Shipping ammo to Alaska."
Try it on the General Discussion board too--we have members in Alaska (some who are FFLs)--who might be able to give you some suggestions.0
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