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joey442
I am thinking of buying an over and under and some one mentioned that if you aim dead center on a target that the bottom barrel will hit lower than the top. So do I have to change my aim? thanks Joe Leva

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  • DONDALINGER
    This is my first reponse to a forum, however, I had the same question when I bought my first O/U and the answer is that both barrels have the same point of impact at approx. 40 yards give or take. In other words, the patterns should crisscross at 40 yds. Therefore you can hold dead on and hit dead on with both barrels. The lower barrel actually throws its pattern at a slightly upwards angle. Go to a range and pattern it on a large piece of cardboard.
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  • taperloc
    Hello joey442,
    Welome to the forum.
    I shoot skeet and trap with an O/U. I don't change my sight picture.
    In skeet, you shoot doubles and I don't change anything. If my lead is right, I hit the target. When I shoot trap, (singles) I shot the bottom barrel. I don't know if it's my imagination, but there seems to be less recoil.
    Hope this helps.
    Taperloc.
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  • 22WRF
    Shotguns are pointed not aimed

    Steel is for guns Tupperware is for leftovers

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  • drewto
    Hello: Essentially the 40 yard rule for stack guns is true. What you really need to do is bench rest (yes, I said bench rest), and off hand shoot the shotgun. 30" sheets of butcher paper work great for the bench resting. I set up four sheets (at least when patterning loads), and shoot at a red dot at the center of the sheet. At least a couple of rounds at separate targets from each barrel. Use cardboard or plywood for a backing. Now run a true 30" circle around the red dot, and study the pattern. I've even quartered the circle to look for excess patterning in the corners. Count the pellets! You'll be surprised at the result. I've seen several nice stack guns that pattern very poorly with 1 1/4 ounce loads, yet perform quite well with 1 1/8 ounce. There are guys who simply compensate when they know the pattern is off, others tune the load and enhance patterning, still others spend the big coin and have barrel work done to enhance patterning. Just as important is to set up 3-4 bed sheets at forty yards and quick fire or off had shoot the shotgun at the center of each sheet (again use a large red dot in the middle). The bench resting will test the patterning of gun, the bed sheet will test your shouldering and POINTING of the shotgun. You'll hear terms like camber, comb drop, etc. when discussing fit of the shotgun. If the shotgun performs adequately in the bench rest testing, but fails in the bed sheet tests, then you need to do some stock fitting to the shoulder. Something as simple as a shorter or longer butt pad will sometimes do the trick. Experts will actually heat, and tweak or bend a wood stock to achieve this result. Fit on a shotgun is everything. If your interested read Jack O'Connors THE SHOTGUN BOOK. I've purchased several on E-bay for less than $10.00. It's a pretty dull read, but there's something on every page that makes you think. The average shot gunner probably hasn't run either of the tests I've described above . . . but when you do you'll realize how badly you have been handicapping yourself. Once you catch on to shooting the stack guns or better yet the side by sides, you'll never go back!
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  • joey442
    You are right 22wrf ,my wife typed my question and edited to her way of thinking LOL thanks for all your help Joe

    joseph leva
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  • Oklahomabound
    drewto has provided an excellent discussion. However, as stated previously, shotguns are pointed not necessarily aimed, and the patterns from the two barrels do overlap nicely around 40' or so. I shoot sporting clays, skeet, quail, etc. with a nice Beretta 12 gauge O/U, that has the full inserts for 20 gauge, 26 gauge, and .410 and have shot a couple of rounds through each. Each gauge differs as well as the shot size and loading.[8D]

    It must be right, or we wouldn't do it this way!
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  • allamericanskeet
    hi one thing i am suprised that no one has asked yet is "does the sight have a single bead or double bead?" if it has a single bead according to what kind of gun it is some shoot high and some shoot low. it also depends on how well the gun fits you if the comb height is the right height for you. but you should see no rib only a flat area on a single beaded gun and a double beaded gun you should stack the beads and make a figure 8.


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