Legality of rbcd ammo
A while back I posted about ccw ammo. I was recommended RBCD ammo, I forgot who posted that reply. I had never heard of RBCD ammo, so I searched the internet. This is intresting stuff, They claim it will punch through body armor, steel, glass, etc and not expand, but it devestates human flesh behind the steel etc. Blackwater had done some testing and the videos of shooting raw meat are intresting, it destroys the meat.
My question is: Is this ammo legal to own? Are there any concerns about it being armor piercing ammo? I assume that it is legal, but you not what assuming means. They also have a new RBCD ammo out, something with TPD, anyone know what that is??
muss
My question is: Is this ammo legal to own? Are there any concerns about it being armor piercing ammo? I assume that it is legal, but you not what assuming means. They also have a new RBCD ammo out, something with TPD, anyone know what that is??
muss
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Saxon pig Check out www.rbcd.net all the info is there.
muss0 -
I've never even heard of this company but checked out the link you've provided. The only mention I can find to ammunition penetrating body armor, steel, glass, ect. was in their LE/Military products line and these were clearly listed as available for police and military use only. Restrictions on the sale of armor piercing handgun ammunition to civilians have been in effect for nearly two decades and sales are prohibited, although older ammunition is grandfathered for continued ownership, but not for resale. This means that if you have a box of old KTW ammo you can keep it but cannot resell it to another person (although there is some question about the legality of collectors purchasing individual rounds for their personal collections).
Mark T. Christian0 -
I would think they would be less of a legal issue than traditional projectile because they are a high velocity,less lethal,frangible round.Designed to cause bad shallow wounds and to stop but not kill. 0 -
RBCD is a small Texas company that has been around for about 7 years. Basically they have 2 lines of ammo. One is for civilian use the other is for LE/Military use.
The civilian ammo uses a TFSP (total fragmenting soft point) bullet that is a presure molded composite of different metals.
It is very serious stuff and sells at $36 for a box of 20. And I know of no states or localities that it is illegal, however the mfg. can best answer that question.
I've seen video of these rounds tested against gold dot and hydrshok and there is a significant difference. GD and HS do serious damage to the clay block, but exit the back. RBCD damage is significantly more and there is no exit ... all energy dumped in the clay block.
In the smaller calibers; 32, 380 and 38 this would be very good stuff to consider. As far as I know they don't load any 25, but they may in the future. Other loadings are 9mm, 357, 357sig, 40, 44mag, 45 acp and I believe 454
Hope this helps.
If you only have time to do two things so-so, or one thing well ... do the one thing!0 -
MarcC. I think if you look at the rbcd site, the LE/mil ammo and the Civilian ammo have the exact same weight bullets and velocity, as a matter of fact the "plus tpd" bullet is only listed on the civilian charts. The plus tpd bullet in a .45 has a velocity of almost 2400 fps. thats moving.
here is another site to check out. http://www.militarycity.com/blackwater/blackwater2.html#BLENDED
Blackwater is a large shooting facility here in NC. They do alot of military spec ops training. Here is where I read about the bullets going cleanly through a piece of steel (pistol bullets) Rifle bullets seem to go through almost anything but flesh.
Pretty good videos also.
muss0 -
I clicked on the link you provided and went down to the special applications ballistic information heading. Clicking on this lead be directly to special ammunition for law enforcement and military which was clearly indicated as available for LE and military use only.
Mark T. Christian0 -
Mark, With the charts being the same, I was confused. So I went to the source. I emailed the manufacturer about the diffrence in the LE/Mil and Civilian bullets. I will update when I get an answer.
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