Upgrading from a 9MM
Good evening all, I have a Taurus pt111 and have had no trouble with it (about 2000 rounds through it). It seems like no one is using the 9MM anymore, and I am looking into trading it in on a .40 or .45 as an upgrade. The going logic to me is that the 9MM does not have the stopping power once thought by military and police officials (am I right on this?). That being said, should I go ahead and upgrade to a .40 or .45? And what are the best candidates for the money for each caliber (most cost effective)? I like the Ruger P97 and the Springfield Armory 1911, but do not have much experience with the .40 or .45. Thank you for all of your input.
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Everybody ends up with a .45 sooner or later....
BTW, Welcome aboard.0 -
The 9mm is still a very good round. Bullet placement is way more important than bigger. But if you want to step up to something bigger might I suggest the 10mm in an EAA witness. Balisticly better than the .40 S&W and the .45acp. I like the power level of the 10mm. It is better than the .357 and real close to the 41mag. It is my companion hand gun when I am back packing or out and about in the wilds. [8D] PS Welocme to GB
Greg
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.40 is almost the same as a 9mm anyway,get a .45acp. 0 -
Gotta go with my peers above. You are ready for a .45.[:)] 0 -
I also forgot, what about the Taurus PT145? I have a friend that has said that it is pretty stout on recoil, is this true? Thanks again. 0 -
Was your friend a girl? A man can handle it just fine, but get a 1911. All road lead to Rome and all .45's lead to a 1911. 0 -
Try renting and shooting a 1911, a SIG P220 and maybe one other .45 before deciding. I don't think there is anything wrong with staying with a 9mm, but .45s are a real pleasure to shoot.
Three Precious Metals: Gold, silver and lead0 -
Skip all the intermediate cartridges and go for the big auto cartridge - the 10mm!
They say a picture is worth a thousand words, well, here's my 1000 then:
The 10mm - either you've got it, or you don't get it...0 -
I have a liking for the 40S&W caliber. Fish and Game use it around here as their Carry calibers. It is just right for me. But for now, I am 40-less. Putting lots of time in on the .45, giving it a chance to make an impression. And 230 grain FMJ bullets make a heck of an introduction into anything they meet... 0 -
Hey let me add my two cents...go for a 1911 in 45acp period. Preferr a Commander myself. I carry a CCO daily and have a series 70 Commander and a P-13 around the office and a Springfield Compact in the shop..can't do better...
Keep your powder dry
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The M1911 in .45ACP has been a proven manstopper for 90+ years. If you want a defensive handgun, you can't do much better. 0 -
just curious, how many of our posters have actually stopped a bad guy with any of these cartridges, or is your insight all hearsay? not to be cruel, but they all will kill. after reading the second and third sentence of johns post, im lead to post this. it appears that its not about its use or function that moves one to buy, its the act of buying or keeping up with trends that stirs one to buy. consumers tend to wear things out and get bored with things, which moves them to try something new, and believe me, there are a lot of mouse traps out there to take your money. whats wrong with keeping the 9mm? this is just a quick interjection to slow the advertising and corporate retail feeding frenzy. since you are all fellow gun nuts, i care about you. so, think before you buy. 9mm is fine. if you want knock down power, change the design of the bullet, not the caliber. hope it helps.
former air operations officer SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team 2. former navy skeet team, navy rifle/pistol team member. co-owner skeetmaster tubes inc.. owner/operator professional shooting instruction.0 -
I have to agree with bobski..We buy things because they're shiny and new, not from need. A 9mm is just fine for defense.
There are no bad guns, only bad people.0 -
Yep. Nothin wrong with a well placed 9mm, esp. HP.
Sounds like you are very comfortable with your 9mm. That may be THE best for you right now. Everybody 'here' finds some reasoning for another gun... nothing wrong there either.
I have only had one need for use at home in the 35 years I have kept a gun nearby. I was glad I had planned to go with a simple and familiar piece. Although I did not have to fire, the adrenaline was pumping big time. You cannot afford to think about your gun operation under those conditions.
SO , if you want another piece, go for it. If you want it for your primary defense weapon you need to be more familiar with that piece than you are with your wife0 -
I carry a pt-111 9mm and also have a few 1911 .45s. In my opinion if I were looking to go up I would go to a 1911 style .45 or 10mm. I personally like the springfield and colt as well as kimbers in the 1911 and the eaa witness in the 10mm. But you really need to find the one you like and will be most comfortable with. 0 -
I agree with bobski, The 9mm will do the job. You have shot it enough that you should be familiar with the gun by now. Fortunately for me I never had to shoot anyone in my 30 year law enforcment career but I first carried a .38 special, then a .357 magnum and after the hicapacity double action semi auto's came around I got one and carried the 9mm. I think the US govt spent lots of time in selecting the 9mm. While the selection process was going on I talked to some USAF firearms instructors who were involved. They liked the model 92 Beretta, which was ultimately selected. These guys were not just a bunch of dummies. They had expertise and the benefit of ballistics information. 0
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