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Western Field 880A-ECH 22 rifle?

gbeggrow
I was wondering if any GBer's knew anything about this particular 22 rifle and the Western Field company. I've had this old 22 sitting in my gun case for years and was just wondering if it had any significance. The gun is in excellent condition and has a tube feed magazine. [?]
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  • BOBBYWINS
    gbe,
    According to my cross-over,it's the same as a Colt Colteer semi.

    Hope this helps,
    BW

    IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.
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  • gbeggrow
    quote:Originally posted by BOBBYWINS
    gbe,
    According to my cross-over,it's the same as a Colt Colteer semi.

    Hope this helps,
    BW

    IT'S WHAT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEMSELVES THAT MAKES THEM AFRAID.


    BOBBYWINS,

    Thanks for the lead. I did some research on the 22 after you provided the info. It looks to be pre 1968 since it has no serial number. It definatly is a Colt Colteer from the pictures I've seen online. The original Colt Colteers in good condition looks to be around $300 to $315 in value. I'm wondering if the Western Field marking on mine makes it more authentic or less authentic. Anyone else out there have any knowledge on this?
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  • RancheroPaul
    "...........if the Western Field marking on mine makes it more authentic or less authentic."

    BOTH!

    It's MORE Authentic as a Western Field......., but, MUCH LESS Authentic as a Colt Colteer........!!!

    HHhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... Wonder if it would be "More Authentic" if marked as a Colt Colteer, or "Less Authentic?"

    Somehow I may be "confused" as to what you might be trying to ask.....??

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  • gbeggrow
    RancheroPaul,

    I see what you are saying and that is a good question. Maybe this will help. Does the "Western Field" marking make it more valuable being manufactured by COLT...OR...does the "Wester Field" marking make it less valuable being manufactured by Colt?[?]
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  • RancheroPaul
    The difference in the two guns lies in the fact that the Colt made Montgomery Wards gun had a barrel length of 22 inches, where as the Colt counter part had a barrel length of 19 - 3/8 inches.

    According to my Colt information, it is the Colt Courier .22 that is almost identical to the Ward's gun produced by Colt.

    Anyway, if you Collect Colts, Montgomery Wards marked guns don't seem to fit in......but then Colts don't go well in a "Montgomery Wards" collection. Mostly, the guns made for Montgomery Wards, Sears and Roebuck, etc. are generally valued "approximately" with their counter parts on a model by model basis. But, for some reason, they are usually valued considerably less in the real market. Mostly, I have heard this attributed to the fact that most of those guns were somehow "inferior" because of subtle differences in the models mandated by the companies that had them made for reasons of "selling cheaper" than the models marketed by the company in their own name. What differences aren't always recognizable......because the stock may have been from a "lesser" grade of walnut, thus making them "cheaper" to build....who knows?

    But, you won't get a Colt price for the gun unless its marked "COLT!"

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  • gbeggrow
    quote:Originally posted by RancheroPaul
    The difference in the two guns lies in the fact that the Colt made Montgomery Wards gun had a barrel length of 22 inches, where as the Colt counter part had a barrel length of 19 - 3/8 inches.

    According to my Colt information, it is the Colt Courier .22 that is almost identical to the Ward's gun produced by Colt.

    Anyway, if you Collect Colts, Montgomery Wards marked guns don't seem to fit in......but then Colts don't go well in a "Montgomery Wards" collection. Mostly, the guns made for Montgomery Wards, Sears and Roebuck, etc. are generally valued "approximately" with their counter parts on a model by model basis. But, for some reason, they are usually valued considerably less in the real market. Mostly, I have heard this attributed to the fact that most of those guns were somehow "inferior" because of subtle differences in the models mandated by the companies that had them made for reasons of "selling cheaper" than the models marketed by the company in their own name. What differences aren't always recognizable......because the stock may have been from a "lesser" grade of walnut, thus making them "cheaper" to build....who knows?

    But, you won't get a Colt price for the gun unless its marked "COLT!"

    I Miss The World I Grew Up In!
    vipersig.jpg


    Hey, thanks for the information my friend! I really appreciate you (and BOBBYWINS) taking the time to help me with my question. Your contribution does not go unapreciated! Thanks again.
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