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trying to find info and value on old revolver

jodynbob
I've got a .22 revolver that I don't know anything about. Single action with what appears to be bakelite 'stag' grips. Barrel says:
Hawes Firearms, CO.
Los Angeles, California
Made in Western Germany by
J P Sauer & Sohn
Other side of barrel says:
Western Sixshooter
.22 Caliber

It's got a number stamped on it, but it isn't in the same format as other serial numbers I've seen...it's more like a date. The number is 1965/2 and is stamped on the barrel. I took the grips off and they both are stamped HS on the internal side of each grip.

This gun isn't in my Gun Trader's Guide, and I don't know where else to find a value. I'm thinking about selling it, but I'd like to know a little about the age and value before I put it up on auction or local sale.

Thanks in advance for any help yall can provide.
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  • jodynbob
    I was hoping I wouldn't hear $100!! I took it to the gunshow this past weekend hoping someone could tell me about it and I had two different sellers offer me $100 for it....was hoping it was worth more and they were wanting to re-sell so I didn't let it go just in case it was worth more.
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  • rufe-snow
    We recently had a thread similar to yours, about the Hawes Single-Action Revolvers, that were made by the Sauer Co. in West Germany.

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=92275


    If yours is one of the models made with a steel frame rather then alloy it would probably be more durable and more likely to command a higher price.

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  • jodynbob
    mine is a steel frame. it's really a bulky gun for a .22. Sitting beside my Blackhawk .357, they are the same size except for the .22 has about an inch less length on the barrel, and the handle is bigger on the .22 than on the .357. barrel o.d. and cylinder are the same size. The .22 is actually heavier than the Blackhawk.
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  • kuhlewulf
    Are you sure its not in your Gun Traders Guide? Its in mine. Early production had simulated stag grips, imported from 1973-1981 NiB$200 Ex$150 Gd$110, if its the combo 22lr/22wmr version, add $20.

    James

    Whats next? A ban on automatic transmissions?
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  • jodynbob
    sounds like you're reading from the Western Marshal SA Revolver....I saw this one, but thought mine was a different gun since it was stamped Western Sixshooter.

    If these guns are one in the same, can anyone offer some insight to my 'serial' number?? I've seen a couple of guns very similar to mine, but they all had serial numbers like xxxxxx with no slashes and 6 digits or more. I was wondering if mine was a date 1965/2 like feb. '65??
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by jodynbob
    sounds like you're reading from the Western Marshal SA Revolver....I saw this one, but thought mine was a different gun since it was stamped Western Sixshooter.

    If these guns are one in the same, can anyone offer some insight to my 'serial' number?? I've seen a couple of guns very similar to mine, but they all had serial numbers like xxxxxx with no slashes and 6 digits or more. I was wondering if mine was a date 1965/2 like feb. '65??





    I went through my proof mark book. The Germans during that time frame DID put a date along with other proof markings on their commerical firearms.

    Seems to me that your revolver should have a serial number on it someplace?

    Being it's the steel frame version of the Sauer single-action, I sure wouldn't sell it for a hundred bucks.

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  • Contender Man
    They are not bad guns, but they are not expensive.

    Blue book declines to go into specific models, but in their general writeup they state that 22 rimfire models are typically valued at $60-$140 and if anything BB tends to be a little on the conservative side.

    If you don't need to sell it, keep it and enjoy it. If your looking for something to put down for insurance purposes, even with a "replacement cost" policy your only going to get an average book value, regardless of the value you assign ... unless your buying specialized "collectors" type insurance and, no insult intended to you or your revolver, a Hawes just would't be worth what would be spent on premiums.


    If you only have time to do two things so-so, or one thing well ... do the one thing!
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  • jodynbob
    ok, one last question...if I list this gun on auction at GB and a successful bid is made, how do I go about shipping it? If I'm understanding the rules correctly, I'd have to ship to a FFL to stay legal. I also saw another post of someone complaining of a gun being shipped UPS so what method of shipping is correct for a gun and with me being an individual does the FFL apply when I sell it?

    Thanks again,
    Robert
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