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Can anyone identify this Bayonet??

charlie73
I have inherited a bayonet that I haven't been able to identify.

The Bayonet is a "knife style" and the blade is about 17 or 18 inches long. I'm assuming that the bayonet was for dress occasions as the blade, handguard, and butt of the handle are chromed. It has dark wood handles.

The markings on the blade are as follows:
-On one side is a flaming grenade emblem with the letters "S" and "A" above it. Below the emblem is the date "1910"
-The reverse has "US" and below that is a 6 digit serial number.

The sheath appears to be fiberglass and metal with the marking "USN" over "MK I". The sheath still has the belt clasp that appears to fit the older style web belts with equipment hole studs.

There is not a mark on the bayonet and both appear in great shape.

Does anyone know anything about this bayonet? What type of gun was it used on? Anyone know a collecter that would be interested in this?

Thanks
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  • p3skyking
    A US 1905 bayo for the Springfield and and will fit a Garand. Made in 1910, it has a bit of value to it. In original condition that is. Being chromed really knocks it down, but what the hey! It is still a nice bayonet and it has some value. Don't open your beans with it.
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  • kingjoey
    P3skyking-That was the detachable bayo that replaced the "rod" bayonets on the early 1903's right? It also fit the Winchester "trench" shotguns too if I remember correctly? Details man we want details[;)]

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  • p3skyking
    Hi Joey,
    Yes, this was the replacement for the rod bayo. It doesn't fit the Mod 97 Trench shotgun. The bayonet that fits the Trench shotgun is the 1917 bayonet for the US Enfield Rifle, Model of 1917.

    As a sidenote, Teddy Roosevelt was the impetus for this bayonet. He did not like the rod and in an exhibition to ordnance personnel, snapped off a rod in simulated combat fighting with a knife bayonet.
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  • kingjoey
    Ahh...that's right, it was the P17 bayo that fit the trenchgun. Thanks for straightening out my memory on that, too many years of working with brake cleaner I guess[:D]

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  • Hangfire
    Alot of 'O3s and Garands[and their accessories] were plated by American Legion Posts for parades and ceremonies.

    Love them Pre-64's!!!!-Bob
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  • charlie73
    A great thanks to you all for the help. Love the commentary too!
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  • p0838
    What you have is a 1905 cutdown bayonet for the Garand. These origianally had wood grips and were bright finish.
    If you take a look at
    Gunbroker Auction 19068740
    Garand US 1905/42 Springfield Bayonet which is called a US Model 1905/42 and is a 1942 WW2 Modification of the 1905 version adding the plastic grips and parkarizing and is what yours looked like before it was cut.
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  • p3skyking
    quote:Originally posted by p0838
    What you have is a 1905 cutdown bayonet for the Garand. These origianally had wood grips and were bright finish.
    If you take a look at
    Gunbroker Auction 19068740
    Garand US 1905/42 Springfield Bayonet which is called a US Model 1905/42 and is a 1942 WW2 Modification of the 1905 version adding the plastic grips and parkarizing and is what yours looked like before it was cut.


    With a blade 17 or 18 inches long, how much do you think it was cut down? With original wood grips, it doesn't sound like it was modified in 1942 does it?
    I can only go by what Charlie wrote in his description. Perhaps you know more?





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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.com
    And don't forget that Teddy Roosevelt started it all....he had watched a demonstration of the Then New 1903 Springfield, and saw the Rod Bayonet broken off at the Muzzle of the Rifle....Upon which juncture he wrote a letter to the Secretary of War Expressing His Displeasure at the Performance of the Rod Bayonet...! He also asked for and recieved opinions of attache's who saw the fighting between the Japanese and the Russians and they're use of Bayonets and Swords...He also asked for and recieved opinions from any and all Officers that had seen action in the Philipines....Hence...The Model 5 bayonet...became a reality..............

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  • allechalley
    My memory is fading ever more quickly, but I seem to remember reading an article in American Rifleman, Guns & Ammo or Shooting Times in the last 3 months on the different variations of the 03 Springfield and the 1917 enfields and the various baronets assigned to each. Some of the earlier designs were cut down and refit to other weapons such as the Garand, but no I don't think they were used at 17".
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