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peegee69
I have a model 1911SL Winchester semi-auto 12 gauge. The butt stock is cracked and has two machine bolts inset and holding it together. Any idea where I can get another original butt stock for it? It is three piece laminated birch.

If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly
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  • only winchesters
    Your best bet is to take it, or send it to a stock maker if you want to keep it original. That was one of the major problems with this gun was the laminated stocks split. Winchester didn't use water proof glue. You can find aftermarket walnut stocks out there, but they are hard too find. The last original butt stock I saw at auction, went for $135.00 it was new and never used. If you take it to a stock maker, have him make two, he might cut you a break on the second one. Regards Dave
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  • peegee69
    Thanks Dave. I'll check it out.
    Phill[:)]

    If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly
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  • icdux1
    phill, a word of caution. be very carefull if you decide to shoot your gun. quite a few old timers around here refer to the 1911 as old 3 fingers or the 3 shot machine gun.the gun go`s into battery hard and any wear,or a frozen fireing pin and you can imagine the results!!
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  • bobski
    as much as i like those old guns, they were dangerous. they had to be hand loaded. meaning the shell had to pumped into battery. if while you were holding the bbl and it slam fired, the front bead could slice your hand as it recoiled. and, if you had a slow cooker and you went to pump open the bbl to remove it and it went off, youd get flashhole burns out the ejection port AND slice your hand open on the front bead as it recoiled. and if you shot it a lot, youd burn your hands on the bbl when you went to reload it. owners beware. personally, id retire the gun! trivia question...do you know WHY it doesnt have a bolt handle to open it?

    former air operations officer SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team 2. former navy skeet team, navy rifle/pistol team member. co-owner skeetmaster tubes inc.. owner/operator professional shooting instruction.
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  • peegee69
    Thank you everyone for the information. I took it apart and checked it out before I shot it. I've run a couple of boxes through it and it fired very well. No problems. Maybe I'll take your advice and retire it. I certainly don't want anyone to get hurt, especially myself!
    As to the trivia question, no, I really don't know, except that I was told it was fasioned after the Howixer (sp) cannon cocking system.
    Phill

    If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly
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  • bobski
    when winchester refused to adopt browinings idea for building the A5, he was furious. browning went to belgium to make his gun instead. the owner of winchester died that week of natural causes. he must have had a heart attack knowing what he did. remington was hurting and browning allowed them to build an A5 style gun fashioned after his A5 to help get them out of debt. thats why old remingtons look like A5's. browning had absolute pat rights on the bolt handle and refused to grant permission to winchester to use it, for refusing his genious. remington was allowed to have it and got the edge on semi shotguns over winchester. winchester was forced to stick to sbs's and pumps. to this day, remington is still the biggest mfg'er of semi autos. winchester slowly faded out of the semi auto business because of it and not until pat's expired in the 40's did winchester make semis. your gun was an attempt from winchester to get around having to have the browning pat'ed bolt handle. it was the last shotgun winchester made for almost 30 years. first gun to have bolt was the M-40 around ww2. you will see the old winchester bbl cock idea on their old rifles too. the old 351 cal semis and the 401 i believe. now you know.

    former air operations officer SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team 2. former navy skeet team, navy rifle/pistol team member. co-owner skeetmaster tubes inc.. owner/operator professional shooting instruction.
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