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German 8 mm WWII Automatic

jmh
Can you tell me a model # My father said it came off the Rhine River
and it was an officers rifle.

Thanks
jmh
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  • OleDuk
    JMH, there were two of them, a G41 and the G43. Germans were looking for an answer to our M1. Ask Mark Christian, I suspect that he knows a lot about the subject.
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  • mark christian
    Probably a G43 semi automatic based on the fact your father was at the Rhine River. If by chance it is a G41 from Walther it is much more valuable, while a Mauser made G41 means you hit the lotto! The later two rifles were produced in very limited numbers (especially the Mauser), used mostly on the eastern front, and are seldom seen today. Estmates range up to 500,000 G43 rifle produced from its adoption in 1943 until the end of hostilities. It is worth noting that during this same time period Springfield Armory alone produced nearly 2.5 million M1 Garand rifles for the U.S. military and Winchester chipped in another 400,000+.

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  • rufe-snow
    Might be a FG 42, MP 43 or StG 44 if it's a "Automatic"?.

    There is at the maximum, less then a (2) pound weight difference between the above selective fire rifles and the G 43/K 43.





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  • p3skyking
    Jmh,
    The other members have given you correct gouge as to the various models. There are a few other arcane weapons that were limited/experimental and not much chance of being one of them.

    There was no "Officers Model" of any German weapons in the 20th century. The Germans marked their weapons very well up until the last weeks of WWII, so if you have the weapon available for inspection, look on the left side or the top for a "G" or a "K" followed by a two digit number.

    You may see a "FG" or an "MG" but these could hardly be considered an officers weapon due to the weight.

    A photo could clear up any question.
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  • mark christian
    jmh has sent me a private e-mail asking for a source of photos for the above mentioned rifles so that he can identify his father's war trophy. I am no good at all with this sort of thing so could member rufe-snow, who has a link to sites showing every firearm ever made, please lend some assistance here? jmh, you need to postitively ID the rifle before we can begin to place a value on it or locate magazines for it.

    Mark T. Christian
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  • captkirk3@dslextreme.com
    SMALL ARMS OF THE WORLD ...BY SMITH AND PUBLISHED BY STACKPOLE..should do nicely.......

    Captain Kirk, Tech Staff
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    jmh has sent me a private e-mail asking for a source of photos for the above mentioned rifles so that he can identify his father's war trophy. I am no good at all with this sort of thing so could member rufe-snow, who has a link to sites showing every firearm ever made, please lend some assistance here? jmh, you need to postitively ID the rifle before we can begin to place a value on it or locate magazines for it.

    Mark T. Christian





    This is the excellent web-site of a Military Museum in England.

    It has pictures of all the previously discussed German W W II era "Automatic" rifles. Some are in better condition then others. Hopefully jmh will be able to identify the rifle his father brought back.



    http://www.rememuseum.org.uk/arms/rifles/armaslr.htm

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