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danlittle
Hey Guys, I bought a VISIBLE LOADING REPEATER PAT APR. 30-07 When I bought this I found a factory Stamp on the side of the recv. Left Side { SECOND } & in front of that is a circle with the letter I in the middle of the circle. I have since talked to several dealers at gun shows & all most all have told me that there was less than 30 of these SECOND stamped visible loading repeaters that ever got out to the public, They were given to higher-ups at stevens and Not to be sold. There had to have been a problem in the steel or else they would have just replaced the wood, My question Does any body know what the problem was, & is this more collectable, also want to know ballpark value. I think the factory stamp makes this kinda Rare ???
Please post below or email dlittle@carolnet.com Thanks Dan
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  • danlittle
    Does anybody know, anyone who could answer about this stevens, I will call or write letter if they are not on GB forum, Thanks, Dan
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  • gundoc19
    ITS STANDS FOR FACTORY SECOND....COULD HAVE BEEN A BLEM IN THE FINISH OR WOOD WHEN IT WENT THRU ITS FINAL INSPECTION...THEY WERE SOLD AT A DISCOUNT...I HAVE RUN INTO QUITE A FEW OVER THE YEARS...WINCHESTER ALSO MARKED GUNS LIKE THIS ALSO
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by gundoc19
    ITS STANDS FOR FACTORY SECOND....COULD HAVE BEEN A BLEM IN THE FINISH OR WOOD WHEN IT WENT THRU ITS FINAL INSPECTION...THEY WERE SOLD AT A DISCOUNT...I HAVE RUN INTO QUITE A FEW OVER THE YEARS...WINCHESTER ALSO MARKED GUNS LIKE THIS ALSO


    gundoc19...

    Winchester never marked any of their firearms in such a manner[V] In fact, they did not allow second rate firearms to get past final inspection and leave the factory, let alone be sold. I am very interested to know specifically which stamps that you have observed on a Winchester firearm that led you to believe this[?]

    Bert H.

    Real Men use a SINGLE-SHOT!
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  • danlittle
    I have been told by several different gun dealers who handle a lot of antique firearms that if it was just a blem in the wood the wood would have been replaced, all but 1 of these dealers stated it was a problem in the metal & that at that time when J stevens Arms was going seconds were not allowed out to the public. but rather given to the exs in the co. I dont know about winchesters , & gundoc19 is the only person who says he has seen several. I would love to find a book on this or someone who truly knows the history. any help will be GREAT
    Thanks
    Dan
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  • gundoc19
    Dan, i have not run into any books that go into detail on this subject all i can offer is my personal experience from the past 20+ years of restoring literality thousands of firearms...when i was an apprentice long ago ...working for 2 rather grumpy gents long passed on i learned quite a bit about how the firearms companies delt with "mistakes" these men worked for 2 of the larger well known makers...most of the time when a flaw was found { cosmetic }it would be corrected...if it involved something major like the color case wasnt quite right or a rollstamp was a bit off they were sold to the workers at a discount or they became " lunchbox guns " they were not scrapped , and i have seen many winchester guns marked {refinished} or {second}the markings are placed where you would not find them unless you completely disassemble the weapon...im referring to the weapons produced during the period between 1890's and the late 1930's
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