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  • gonepostal
    lol

    yep its me ,same one for 4 years now
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  • bambihunter
    I too was going to reply... My statement wasn't simply more powder by itself means more power (energy or velocity) but normally there is some truth to it. If similar bullet diameters alone was all there was to it then a .380 would have the same specs as a .357 SIG and as we know that simply isn't true. However, you put more powder behind it and in this case it increases the velocity and energy and makes it a much more effecient round.

    Point in case that more powder doesn't always mean more power is the 7mm STW vs. 7mm RUM. The RUM burns quite a bit more powder than the STW, but yields very little gain for all that extra noise and recoil.
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  • gonepostal
    A lot also has to do with the type of powder a certain manufacturer uses ,some powders burn faster than others ,while some create more gas hence more pressure

    And this falls into play also on the caliber a manufacturer would choose ,it could take 8 grains to move a .40 at 1,000 fps ,while ,it could take 6.8 grains to move a .45 at the same velocity with a different powder

    .380, .38,9mm,.357 in any configuration all have the same diameter ,different bullet and case length ,powder and bullet weight make the difference in ballistics and expansion

    a .380 and a .32acp can have the same ballistics , but no one will argue on which one they would carry for obvious reasons ,but when it comes to comparing a .40 to a .45 ,those set on a .40 will argue the same difference is not relevant


    yep its me ,same one for 4 years now
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  • bambihunter
    I've not found a .32 to have the same power as a .380, at least in a factory load. Can you elaborate? I'm going to get a Kel-tec and was leaning towards the .380, but with a slide hold-open and an additional round I'd opt for the .32 if the velocity and energy are the same.

    BTW, for some people, it is perception. Such is the case with the .357 mag and my favorite auto cartridge - the 10mm. They are basically identical in ballistics and in most factory loadings the 10mm will outperform it. Yet, if you ran a poll, I bet at least 75% of shooters would say it is more powerful and would prefer it (all other things being equal such as same guns and cartridge availability).
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  • gonepostal
    Pick up a gun buyers or reloading manual guide it will have some ballistics in the back ,it will give you a guideline

    {fiocchi}
    .32 acp 60 grain 1,200fps ,192 ft pounds at the muzzle

    {Winchester }
    .380 acp 1,000fps ,189 ft pounds at the muzzle


    look it up

    ,bambihunter I would stay with the .380 for the same reason of expansion
    the kel-tec p32 ,.32 and the kel-tec p-3at .380 are the 1/10th of a inch difference in size ,the .380 can handle a hotter load ,I would gladly give up the extra round on the .32 to have a .380


    Technical Specifications
    Calibers: .32 AUTO
    Weight unloaded. 6.6 oz.
    Loaded magazine 2.8 oz.
    Length 5.1"
    Height 3.5"
    Width .75"
    Barrel Length 2.7"
    Sight radius 3.8"
    Muzzle energy max 200ftlbs
    Capacity 7+1 rounds
    Trigger pull 5 lbs

    Calibers: .380 AUTO
    Weight unloaded. 7.2 oz.
    Loaded magazine 2.8 oz.
    Length 5.2"
    Height 3.5"
    Width .77"
    Sight radius 3.8"
    Muzzle energy max 250ftlbs
    Capacity 67+1 rounds
    Trigger pull 5 lbs

    oh! and as far as the .357 vs 10mm ,i know what you are saying ,alot of people don't realize you loose 30% potential power in a wheel gun
    yep its me ,same one for 4 years now
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  • bambihunter
    Thanks for the info on the .32 vs. .380, I hadn't seen any specs that were close, not to mention the .32 exceeding it. I'll re-check it. [:)]
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  • bambihunter
    http://www.fiocchiusa.com/centerfire.htm lists the .32 at a maximium of 205 and their .380 at 215...

    I'm not finding any .32 ammo that outperforms .380 ammo from the same manufacturer.

    Got any more idea? I'm 'bout ready to go plop my hard-saved money down and more than likely it'll be one of these calibers. I had decided on the .380 until you got my interests aroused once again on comparisons between the two.
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