BAR 1918
you know the wwI and wwII versions..........you see manuals for sale but not the weapon. how hard is this weapon to find and how much would one cost?
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You are talking about a weapon that is almost non existent today. Few examples remain, most are in museums if they were lucky enough to not be scrapped.
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ohio ordinance sells a semi auto version with either wood or bakelite stock for around 2850.00 www.ohioordnanceworks.com
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I have one of the sem-auto BAR's from Ohio Ord. It has a bake-lite butt stock and a walnut forearm.
It came with the bi-pod, and it is accurate, reliable, and a blast to shoot.
When I ordered it I had a long conversation with one of the owners. He said that they had found a bunker full of surplus WWII BAR's in Belgium a few years ago. Since they were not allowed to import the complete guns, they stripped them down and brought back everything except the receivers. They manufactured their own receivers and put together the "new" guns.
I must say they did a superb job. Mine is very well made with high quality materials.
hansomboy.... If you are looking for the full-auto version, good luck.
If you could find one, my guess would be about $10,000.00+
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If you are really interested in purchasing a BAR you are in luck because there were a large number of these machineguns registered during and before the 1968 amnesty and since they qualify as Curio and Relics so if you have a C&R FFL you don't need a Class 3 dealer to perform the transfer. The downside is that because they are rather easy to find, these Brownings are VERY popular with collectors and fetch top dollar. You are looking at $15,000 for an entry level "shooter" and prices go up from there for more collectable models in new or as issued condition. As rldowns mentioned, there are very few original WWI Model 1918 BARs around and most are either in museums or locked up tightly in the safes of advanced collectors, never to see the light of day. Set your sights on a WWII version and you'll be able to locate an example quickly while you may not find an original WWI version within your life time!
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here look under pre-ban rifles
http://www.csmetall-werkes.com/
they are in st.charles mo ,close to stl.
2,895.00
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You should be able to spot a WWI model easily as I believe it was the only one manufactured with select-fire capability....full-auto/semi-auto, as I believe most of the WWII models were only manufactured/converted in full auto with a switch to change the rate of fire, except for a few U.S.M.C. issue BAR's that retained the select-fire ability of semi-auto.
And yea, you can find remanufactured ones that were bulit on new recievers with parts kits but to find a true origional....good luck. There is one here on gunbroker that somebody is selling...opening bid of $15.5k.
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Keep in mind that only the original BARs would qualify as Curio and Relics and examples produced on new commercial receivers prior to the cut off in 1986 would need to be transfered to the buyer through a Class 3 dealer located in his home state. Collecting machineguns like the BAR is a VERY expensive proposition hansomboy and the price rldowns came up with (he seems to know quite a bit about the subject of BARs) is pretty representative of the kind of money you'll need. How much to you really want a BAR and how deep are your pockets? An original "as issued" is all most out of the question, but a rebuilt WWII shooter grade might fill the "need"!
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Many if not all the 7th Div. BAR's I inspected and repaired in Korea had only one rate of automatic fire plus a semiautomatic rate of fire. this was due to a rusted in place, bob-weight and spring within a tube in the butstock,that is struck by the bolt in recoil. The weight travels back and forth against a very light coil spring, creating the time delay when tripping the sear in the 250rpm mode.
The Army in its "wisdom" did not authorize the disassembly tool at company armorer level.The guns were turned in for other reasons mainly corrosion that disabled the gas systems or for new barrels.
It was a surprise to many company armorers to to get back their BARs with two rates of auto fire.
After rebarrelling my first BAR and cycle testing it in the shop, I found the BAR will slam fire WITH THE FIRING PIN REMOVED. Luckily, no one was hurt.
Corrosive ammo which locked up the adjustable gas ports, lack of a quick change barrel and weather getting into the buttstocks were serious shortcomings of this weapon.0 -
Correct my statement to read the BAR will slam fire with the hammer removed .
The firing pin is heavy enough to indent primers when the bolt slams forward even with hammer removed. It's academic anyway, since the BAR fires from an open bolt, unless you're trying to cycle live ammo or blanks through the mag without firing them. To do this the firing pin must be removed.0
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