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muss
Hi folks, I am about to buy a new .45 in the 1911 family. Any thoughts on the springfield loaded series? How about the standard 1911 compared to the high capacity? Any other suggestions? I know you all have probable beat this topic to death, but I am new to the group. thank you in advance for your advice.

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  • vikingsfaninmi
    What do you plan to use the 1911 for? Carry/Personal protection, home defense, shooting paper, pin shoots, action shooting, etc? What's your budget? 1911's run the gamut from $400 to $4000 (or more). Essentially, you get what you pay for. The advantage of most 1911's is that you can add improvements as your budget allows.
    Single stack vs high capacity. Again, what are you going to use it for? Find a "try before you buy" and shoot as many different 1911's as you can afford. Better yet, if your not a member of a club, join one. It's rare that I shoot at the club when someone doesn't "try" what I'm shooting or I don't "try" what someone else is shooting. Good luck and have fun in your search.
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  • muss
    viking...
    i own a single stack 1911 in 38 super and have shot both types of weapons. I will probable use it for target, may carry on occasion. i really am thinking about the 1911 stainless springfield in the loaded series, about $600. But I also like the high capacity springfield. What to do what to do, may have to get both. Might put night sights on it at some point in future. The draw back is the h/c does not come with dovetailed front site.

    muss
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  • vikingsfaninmi
    For less than the price of buying both, you could have the Wilson KZ-45 high capacity with night sights and (I believe) dove-tailed front sight (and stille have money left over for extra mags, ammo and range fees). For my money, I would take one Wilson over two Springfields.
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  • Contender Man
    I'll second the Wilson proposal.

    S.A. makes good middle of the road pistols at above middle prices.

    As I suggested to another fella a few minutes ago, if you want middle of the road grade, then go with a Rock Island or Daly, both are good platforms and both will let you trick them out as you see fit for less than what you would spend with buying 2 S.A. or the Wilson, but, if you want a pistol that is well above the middle, go with the Wilson.

    If you only have time to do two things so-so, or one thing well ... do the one thing!
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  • mpolans
    Note that Wilsons have lower capacity mags (no hi-caps available at all; was also designed to be a slimmer hi-cap by compromising magazine width). If I wanted a high quality hi-cap 1911, I'd look at the STI or SVI offerings.
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  • Der Gebirgsjager
    Cheeez! The Springfield's a good gun! Buy it--you'll be happy.[:D]
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  • muss
    Thanks guys. I had not considered the wilson, matter of fact I do not think I have ever seen one. Is the wilson a double action gun??? Any info on a website where I can see wilsons? I really do not care about the high capacity gun, just kinda sounds fun, but the first shot is the only one that counts, after that I am just throwing lead. Used to be a much better shot, but with age, my eyes are not what they used to be and not enough range time.

    muss
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  • Pearyw
    I think the loaded Springfield Stainless is one of the best buys today. I have seen them for around $700. If you can get it for $600 I would buy one.
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  • gotstolefrom
    Since we are on the 1911 topic, I have another question.

    I have a 'bring back', a 'parts' gun, a cheap clone, and they all shoot fine for close quarters. I came upon a SA for sale NIB. After examination I was certain it was NIB, but one thing swung me to buy. The barrel thickens slightly at the bore end (at bushing while in battery). I only guessed that this was a 'hand fit' bushing. And the gun shoots fine , and prints very well from a rest.
    What have I got with this bbl? Are all SA bbls like this?
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  • vikingsfaninmi
    Muss, go to wilsoncombat.com to check out the Wilsons. The KZ-45 is a 10+1 gun. In the world of 1911's, I don't think of this as low capacity. It's not a 14 round Para, but then again, I guarantee you will be able to get all 10 rounds in the Wilson mag, I can't say the same for my experience with other "hi capacity" mags. You'll find many Wilson's to look at on GunBroker by searching under Wilson, some are better buys than others.
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  • Der Gebirgsjager
    gotstolefrom--no, not all models of SA feature that barrel/bushing relationship, but a couple do. You'll find different variations on this theme in other manufacturer's lines as well, the ideal being to get a tight, repeatable barrel and bushing relationship every time the side cycles into battery. This is one factor that contributes to increased accuracy. There are models with bushingless barrels that have a barrel that is heavily tapered at the muzzle back toward the breech, standard barrels that utilize a bushing with springy fingers that maintain tension on the barrel, National Match-type barrel and bushing combinations where the bushing starts out being too small for the diameter of the barrel and the barrel is hand honed into the bushing for a very tight fit using valve grinding compound, etc., etc. These systems all work pretty well, but are not, by themselves, the sole ingredient in an accurate .45 Auto. The proof is in the performance. Sounds like you've got a good one.[:D]
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  • muss
    I looked at the wilson combat website, the cz 45 looks to be more expensive than the springfield loaded. I will have to check the local prices as they are usually a bit lower than the websites. I can get the springfield stainless loaded for $629 locally. I really feel comfortable with this pistol and will probable buy it, but it is always good to discuss things first. thank you all for the input.

    muss
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