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OLD Steyr M.95?????

gbeggrow
My family has had this very old rifle hanging over our fire place for years. I've always thought it was a cool looking old rifle. I just recently moved into my own home and I now have the rifle mounted above my fire place. I've been lurking around GB.com for some time now getting a gun education and got to thinking about the old family fire place decoration and what exactily it was. I pulled her down and gave her a good looking over. The rifle has a marking atop of where the round chambers just where the bold meets the barrel. It says Steyr M.95. The rifle is not operational, and I'm sure the internals are shot. I was wondering if anyone could give me some direction on it? You know, "should I leave it the way it is or is there some expert out there that could reapir it without damaging the value and history of the rifle"????

I have a picture of the jewell, but haven't quite yet figured how the heck to post one!! I can email it to anyone who would like to give assistance.

Also, I've also done several searches on this site to try and find past questions on this rifle and nothing similar to my rifle has turned up. I've also exahusted several different search engines on the NET trying to find any information on it that I can. I've had no luck at all finding anything similar to mine. Only thing close was a Swedish Mauser rifle.
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  • Ronald J. Snow
    Are you sure it says M.96 and not M.95? If it is a M.95 move the bolt locking device, it is a grooved piece of metal on the left side of the bolt handle, down. Then pull the bolt straight back.
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  • rufe-snow
    Waffenfabrik Steyr in Austria, made a Model 1896 rifle in small numbers.

    It was a turning bolt design that was far overshadowed commerically by the Mausers made in Germany.

    The most distinctive feature was the bolt head, which had (4) small locking lugs, instead of (2) large ones.

    If indeed your rifle is a Model 96, it would probably be worth good money to a collector if it was in good shape. As it is, in the condition you describe its problematical?

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  • gbeggrow
    quote:Originally posted by Ronald J. Snow
    Are you sure it says M.96 and not M.95? If it is a M.95 move the bolt locking device, it is a grooved piece of metal on the left side of the bolt handle, down. Then pull the bolt straight back.


    Sir,

    After looking quite a bit closer it does look as if it says M.95.
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  • gbeggrow
    quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
    Waffenfabrik Steyr in Austria, made a Model 1896 rifle in small numbers.

    It was a turning bolt design that was far overshadowed commerically by the Mausers made in Germany.

    The most distinctive feature was the bolt head, which had (4) small locking lugs, instead of (2) large ones.

    If indeed your rifle is a Model 96, it would probably be worth good money to a collector if it was in good shape. As it is, in the condition you describe its problematical?

    luger_4.jpg



    Thanks for the info and it definatly is a M.95 and not the 6. My goal here is not actually to see how much the rifle is worth. I definatly alwatys want to keep it no matter what the value (unless it's a gazillion bucks...but then I'd be a "sell out" to my Kin!). I'd just like to maybe have it repaired and operational, that is if it will not take away from the value of the rifle. Thanks for your insight sir and any more info would be sweeeeeet!
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  • Ronald J. Snow
    For info and nice photos go to www.gungrabber.com/Steyr%20M95.htm

    This might tell you if it is a M.95 for sure and explain the operation of the bolt.
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  • gbeggrow
    quote:Originally posted by Ronald J. Snow
    For info and nice photos go to www.gungrabber.com/Steyr%20M95.htm

    This might tell you if it is a M.95 for sure and explain the operation of the bolt.


    The pictures do help at the link. The first picture (the one from above of the bolt/action) looks almost identical to mine.

    Now the second picture (complete side shot) is not all that similar. The one pictured looks to be a carbine and mine is definatly not as it's got the loooooooong barrel.
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  • jonk
    It was made in a long rifle and carbine version. Just curious, why do you think the internals are shot?

    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conf
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  • gbeggrow
    Originally posted by jonk
    It was made in a long rifle and carbine version. Just curious, why do you think the internals are shot?


    Guess I say that because when you slide the bolt back to load the weapon and then close the bolt, the trigger does not operate. It also looks as it it may be missing some parts on the bolt assembly.

    Ya'll think this is a rifle that I could take to say like the Gander Mt. gunsmith or should I try to locate an expert who is familiar with the rifle?


    DAM, the wifey is home now....I gotta log off and spend some QT with her (maybe it'll result in some fun [:p]! I'll try to be back later...if not I'll check in tomorrow.
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  • Der Gebirgsjager
    Hi, gbeggrow--well, it sounds for sure like you have an 1895 Model Steyr-Mannlicher rifle. They were the standard rifle of the Austro-Hungarian Empire in World War 1, and continued in use mainly by second line troops and police in World War 2. They are not rare, nor even uncommon, and in fact the rifles that were reworked into carbine length weapons are currently for sale from at least one importer for under $100. They were, however, unique in that there were only 3 rifles with straight-pull bolt actions accepted for military service. Your rifle can be restored if it is missing parts, and a good source for a parts diagram and the parts is the Numrich Arms Corp., www.e-GunParts.com Whether or not to restore your piece would largely depend on its overall condition, how many parts are missing, and how much the missing parts cost. If the cost to restore exceeds the cost of a currently available specimen I would advise against it; although people do not always make logical decisions when sentiment is involved. Your rifle may be in 8x50Rmm, but is more likely chambered for 8x56Rmm. Both rounds are possible to find, but the second is considerably easier to come by. Best of luck with your project.
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  • jonk
    The guts of this gun aren't so complex that you couldn't fix it yourself, especially if you had a good example to look at. We're all assuming you have an M.95 straight pull at this point; tell me does the bolt operate simply by pulling straight back and foward or is it turned? Just want to make sure we give good advice on repairing.

    "...hit your enemy in the belly, and kick him when he is down, and boil his prisoners in oil- if you take any- and torture his women and children. Then people will keep clear of you..." -Admiral of the Fleet Lord Fisher, speaking at the Hague Peace Conf
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  • njretcop
    I took one, in near mint condition, to a PA gunshow about six months ago and couldn't get $100.00 bucks for it.

    If it has family value to it, keep it, but I wouldn't invest any money in it to restore it. Just not worth it!!!

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    Charlie

    "It's the stuff dreams are made of Angel"NRA Certified Firearms InstructorMember: GOA, RKBA, NJSPBA, NJ area rep for the 2ndAMPD. njretcop@copmail.com
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  • gbeggrow
    First of all I would like to thank all of you for your input. Secondly I have decided to try and fix the Steyr M.95 myself after doing some more research today (since it's not something rare or delicate). I'm pretty much doing this for the family value in it. I just dissasembled the rifle and the internals do look fairly simple. I have immediatly after doing some research and looking at bolt/assembly photos online discovered that there are some simple parts missing. I'm going to give repairing it my best shot. Thanks again for all your input!
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