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C182Q
Trying to obtain info on older German shotgun. The bbls are stamped Krupps Stahl. It is my understanding that Krupps mfd. bbls for a variety of shotgun mfgs. there are no other markings on the reciever?? Any suggestions on identifying this fine piece????
There is no serial number on the bbls. or reviever, there are several proofs on the bbls and the word "nitro" and the words USS Stahl. Ihave yet to find any markings on the reciever. The craftsmanship is magnificent beautifully 100% engraved and the trigger hsg. and grip cap are bone. It is 16ga. Any guess to its age?
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  • bobski
    send me a pic.

    former air operations officer SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team 2. former navy skeet team, navy rifle/pistol team member. co-owner skeetmaster tubes inc.. owner/operator professional shooting instruction.
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  • Herschel
    C182Q, You didn't give the guage but I would bet it is 16 ga. If so it is quite likely chambered for the 2 9/16" shells. Modern 16 ga are 2 3/4". I may be off on my lengths but I know the old ones are shorter and modern shells will open up into the forcing cone. This can cause high pressure and I believe screw up the pattern. You would be well advised to have the chambers measured by a gunsmith.
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  • 101AIRBORNE
    You have a German Guild gun and it is unlikely that you will ever know
    the manufacturer of the sub-componets. The barrels are first rate being of Krupps steel. Good luck. 101
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  • rufe-snow
    Unless there are proofs or other markings on the water table, that you haven't found yet, the receiver of your shotgun doesn't appear to have been made in Europe.

    The only exception to the above that I can think of, is that the receiver was made by a apprentice as his Master Work and was never intended for commerical sale.

    In occupied Japan after the Second World War many fine pieces were fabricated for the American G I's relatively inexpensively. My understanding is that the Japanese engraving was very distinctive. Take some high quality close-up photos and show them to the pros, see what they say.

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  • Guns & Glass
    Barrels should have dimensions, proof marks, and bore stamping on the bottom of the lump, and depending on proof house something on the barrels.
    That will not determine the maker, but will answer some of the ?'s.
    Provide those, pix will be better, and you'll get help from the GBr's.

    Happy Bullet Holes!
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