Glock 33 in 357Sig
I have shot the Glock 26 and 27, in 9mm and 40 S&W, but have never shot a model 33 in 357 Sig. How does the recoil and muzzle blast compare to the 9mm and 40S&W? What kind of velocity does the 357 Sig have out of that short barrel? Is it faster than a 357 from a 4" revolver?
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Chris8161
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Chris---I owned the G-33 for about two weeks. I normally don't mind recoil (heck, I love all three of my 10mm's), but the power of the .357 Sig in that small of a frame was snappy, to say the least. It just seemed to punch straight back into the web of my hand and sting a little bit. Got rid of it and got a G-27. 
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I personally couldn't tell the difference between the recoil of a .40 S&W and a .357 SIG fired from the same gun.
I, like Slider, have several 10mm's and greatly prefer that cartridge to any other auto pistol cartridge. You might consider either a Glock 20 (full-size 10mm) or a Glock 29 (sub-compact 10mm). Aftermarket barrels can be bought for either of these for around $100 that will allow you to also shoot .40 S&W or .357 SIG. Think about it, for $800, you can have a NIB Glock that will shoot the powerful 10mm, and also the .40 S&W and the .357 SIG. Either of these will also allow you to buy the top-end from a 21 or 30 and also shoot .45 ACP as well (this conversion is MUCH more expensive than either or both of the other conversions I mentioned, but certianly can be done).
I don't recall the exact numbers, but the SIG round is almost identical to the same bullet weight .357 mag as far as velocity, but lower in energy. The 10mm meets or exceeds the .357 mag in both departments, and can be hot-loaded to near .41 mag levels.0 -
If you shoot 115 grain .357SIG from a Glock 33 the speed is around the same as a 125 grain .357 Magnum from a 4" barrel the 115 grain .357SIG has more muzzle energy at about 593 ft.-lbs. but the Mag is faster.The 125 grain .357 Magnum out of a 4" has around 583 ft.-lbs. of energy.But even in a 4" inch barrel a 125 grain .357SIG is about 125 fps slower than a .357 magnum from the same barrel length.The .357SIG is NOT .357 Magnum but its close.In a Auto-Loading pistol its about the closest your going to get without getting a Desert Eagle in .357 Magnum.A .357SIG is like a really really hot turbocharged 9mm Parabellum.Its shoots 9mm bullets anyway. 0 -
I thank you all for your input, I am considering a Glock 33 as a concealed carry firearm. Right now I carry a S&W 642, 5 shot 38 special, and I like the idea of having a little more firepower if I should ever need it. 10 rounds of 357 Sig beats 5 rounds of 38 Special!
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This is from a shooting guide:
115 grain .357SIG-1,520 fps=593 ft.-lbs muzzle energy
124 grain .357SIG-1,450 fps=578 ft.-lbs. muzzle energy
125 grain .357SIG-1,350 fps=510 ft.-lbs. muzzle energy
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105 grain .357 Magnum Super Clean-1,650 fps
110 grain .357 Magnum-1,295 fps=410 ft.-lbs. muzzle enrgy
125 grain .357 Magnum-1,450 fps=585 ft.-lbs. muzzle energy
158 grain .357 Magnum-1,235 fps=535 ft.-lbs. muzzle energy
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135 grain 10mm Auto-1,400 fps=551 ft.-lbs muzzle energy
155 grain 10mm Auto-1,255 fps=485 ft.-lbs muzzle energy
170 grain 10mm Auto-1,340 fps-680 ft.-lbs. muzzle enrgy
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135 grain .40 S&W-1,140 fps=390 ft.-lbs muzzle energy
155 grain .40 S&W-1,120 fps=447 ft.-lbs. muzzle energy
180 grain .40 S&W-1,015 fps=412 ft.-lbs. muzzle energy0 -
But no matter what those 5 will always be there.God forbid a malfunction with a Auto-Loader.5 for sure I think beats 10 maybe.Check out a Taurus 617 in .357 Magnum 2" ported barrel,dao concealed hammer,7 shot .357 Magnum and only around $375.00 brand new in box.And most importantly IT WILL ALWAYS FIRE.Even if you get a bad round that doesnt go off you dont have to let go of someone you may be fighting with to clear the malfunction from your gun,you just pull the trigger move to the next round and try again. 0 -
Revolvers can and do malfunction... I agree not as much as a semi-auto, but they still break, get out of time, etc.
As long as a good quality semi-auto is purchased, and is well maintained they can be 100%. I can think of at least 5 semi-auto's that have absolutely NEVER failed to fire, cycle, etc. and my Glock 20 is one of them...
Check out the 10mm specs - they meet a .357 mag all the way (and even exceed it depending on the load). Either way, it sure beats the .357 SIG round hands down. They are certianly lighter to carry than a Desert Eagle too.0 -
I personally have never seen a revolver fail.I have seen one that was shot for years get its forcing cone cracked but that was it.I have only seen one Semi-Auto absolutely never fail and it was a Smith & Wesson.I saw a Glock 19 that I never saw fail but the owner said it didnt feed a round one time that he could remember. 0 -
My Sig 2340 shoots both 40s&w/357sig. I can certainly tell when I've got it full of 357sigs, compared to the 40's.
The 357sig is a virtual "death ray" according to Texas Rangers I've spoken with; they contend that compared to the 40/10mm, they have had more consistent 1-2 shot stops with the sig.
Never owned a Glock; wouldn't trade my 608 Taurus (8 shot, 2" barrel, ports, etc. in 357 Mag)for any autoloader (well, maybe a nice STI in 38super), but then, I've been known to shoot prairie dogs with a .50!
The design of the bottleneck case of the 357sig aids chambering in a way that the 40/10mm cannot. That said; light guns with magnum-equivalent cartridges are harder to control than full-sized guns with the same fodder. Try a 2" 357 Mag vs a 8", and you'll see what I mean.
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