Bert H.

joeaf1911a1

October 31, 2005 13:30

According to your Winchester 1894 thread http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=245213, the last Model 1894 made in that year was serial #1674.

Ironically, it's for sale on the auction side: http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=338175100



I just thought you might be interested in seeing it.

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  joeaf1911a1

  October 31, 2005 13:30

  Would like to get DOM of '92 Winchester serial number 7762
  Thank you
  wwllvet

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  Bert H.

  October 31, 2005 14:26

  Hello Joe,
  
  If it had an octagon barrel, it was a Second Model 1890. The Model 1906 was only made with a round barrel. Original Model 1890 barrels can be found, but the vast majority of them have poor bores (which is no problem if you intend to reline it). The first thing that you will need to determine before finding a replacement barrel, is which specific .22 rimfire cartridge it originally chambered for. The cartridge carrier on the Model 1890 was made for a specific cartridge only (e.g. 22 Short, or 22 Long, or 22 WRF only), and it will not function properly with other size catridges. I am curious which cartridge you shot in it after rebarreling it?
  
  Model 1890 serial number 190997 can be researched through the Cody Firearms Museum - http://www.bbhc.org/firearms/records.cfm. A factory letter will tell you exactly when it was made (approximately 1904), and which cartridge it was originally chambered for. At the time it was produced, Winchester only made them in 22 Short, 22 Long, and 22 WRF (the 22 Long Rifle was not introduced in the Model 1890 until 1917).
  
  Bert H.
  
  Real Men use a WINCHESTER Single-Shot!

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  wundudnee

  October 31, 2005 16:23

  You regularly see model 1890 barrels on that dreaded e-place site. There are some difference in barrel adresses from early to late production. However if you get the right chambering that wouldn't affect function, only originality. The last patent date stamped on them is 1911 and that was a change on the magazine tube to a lugged end. But even well used barrels seem to be commanding a pretty good price. Bert was probably about right on the 1904 production date.
  
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  Whenever I see a cow eat grass, I am reminded that "This too shall pass."............ Baxter Black
  
  

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  joeaf1911a1

  November 01, 2005 13:27

  Bert H : Now you got me thinking. First of all it does not have a curved buttplate. Tried a mix of .22 short, longs and L.R's through the
  action and it fed them o.k.. So maybe its another 1906 and not a 1890.
  Besides, it aint in the greatest shape, usable but "pretty well used and
  then some". Possibly at todays prices for these parts, maybe I should just "part it out". Now the other one, a 1906 is a great rifle which shortly will go to my grandson.

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  Bert H.

  November 01, 2005 14:08

  Hello Joe,
  
  If it feeds all three of the standard .22 rimfire cartridges with no problems, it was either originally a Model 1906, or someone installed a 1906 cartridge carrier in a Model 1890 receiver. Does it have visible locking lugs cut into the frame? Is there a "B" under the serial number? Regardless, I suspect that it is a Model 1906 (based on the butt plate, and the cartridge carrier). An original barrel can be found with diligence to restore it to some semblance of originality.
  
  Bert H.
  
  Real Men use a WINCHESTER Single-Shot!

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  joeaf1911a1

  November 02, 2005 06:30

  Many thanks Bert H: Now I have to do some thinking about the best course to follow.. I appreciate all the info.

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  Bert H.

  November 02, 2005 08:37

  You are quite welcome Joe, and the best of luck with rebuilding that old Winnie[^]
  
  Bert H.
  
  Real Men use a WINCHESTER Single-Shot!

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