Was any damage done?
Okay, gotta blame Hollywood on this one. I bought a S&W 686 from a buddy of mine that is in excellent condition. I know that he had a bad habit of spinning the cyclinder when open and the flipping it close while it was still spinning. I'm sure that everyone has seen this crap in a movie. I know that I am generally one that doesn't like to tear anything up and it could be said that I sometimes "baby" most of the stuff I own. My question: do you think that this type of "movie" crap can actually hurt a revolver or am I being nit-picky? I never said anything to him about it because it wasn't my gun should it tear up; until I bought it![:D]
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When in doubt, unload the clip, Semper Fi
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I dont believe doing that would cause any damage.
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Yes it can. It can damage the yoke, and cause your cylinder to not lock up correctly. Next time, smack his hand.
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It can over time weaken the yoke and put undue wear on the cylinder advance notches. It shouldn't be done ever. That being said, check out your 686 to see if the cylinder advance notches don't look all worn down. Check to see that the yoke isn't loose and wobbly when open and that it still closes tightly. And, if there isn't a lot of wiggle of the cylinder when its closed and it locks up well when cocked, then your buddy's poor handling hasn't had too bad of an affect. Just don't ever let him or anyone else do it any more.
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quote:Originally posted by Cyclonus
I dont believe doing that would cause any damage.
Can I ask you ,where did you learn this??[:(]0 -
Like the Gentlemen said....The weight of the Cylinder will cause the Yoke to Bend over a period of time...Kinda like Dry Firing...Not A Smart Move....
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[8D]--Another more common sense way to look at it-Every mechanical thing we have, that rotates, does so on either Bearings, or a Bushing surface. Even with proper lubrication and pressure application-the Bearing/Bushing surface will wear-never even. So any extra spinning of the revolver cylinder will speed up the YOKE/alignment wear.And flipping the cyl. closed will cause undue wear on the advance mechanism. Should not do it "EVER"--JIMBO
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AARRGGHH!
Flipping the cylinder closed or slamming it closed while rapidly spinning is much worse on a revolver than dry firing. Revolvers are a collection of well timed parts and aren't designed for these forces. To some degree, one worn part will effect the functioning of the rest. Your gun won't fall apart if you treat it this way, but even the best made revolver's performance will suffer.
Close the cylinder, then look at the fine line where the front/right side of the yoke mates against the frame. Now press against the cylinder as if you were trying to open it without hitting the release. If the cylinder has been flipped closed very much you'll see that fine yoke/frame line widen as you're pressing.
Closing the cylinder while it's spinning will wear the cylinder notches and the bolt, which is the part that rises up out of the bottom of your frame to engage the cylinder notches. Take a look at both the notches and bolt for peening, then check for rotational play as each chamber locks in aligned with the bore. Also look at the hole in the frame where the bolt protrudes. This can become widened if the gun's been heavily abused like this.
Doing either of these will also wear the hand, which is the part that engages the rear of your cylinder and causes it to rotate, and it's engagement surfaces. This will cause the cylinder to turn too little for the bolt to drop into the cylinder notches.
Any of these conditions results in the chamber that's under the hammer being slightly out of alignment with the bore. If their alignment isn't true your accuracy will definitely suffer. If it's alignment is really bad the shooter standing next to you will also suffer. [B)]
A well made revolver isn't fragile, but like any other machine it's desined to be operated in a certain manner. People think it looks cool, but flipping the cylinder closed is a clear sign of a nimrod.0 -
Thanks for the responses. I'm pretty sure that he didn't do it enough to harm the gun or at least very much. He had it for 6 or 8 years but probably only fired less than 1000 rounds through it. I'll take a look at it this evening just to make sure. Plus, even though he doesn't have another revolver right now, I'll smack him if I seem him do it again. Thanks for confirming what I thought!
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its a good thing that it happened to a well made s&w and not some junk gun. it would probably be in 3 parts on the ground by now.
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This subject is like a lot of other things in life that don't serve a useful purpose and carried to excess can be harmful. i don't do it and I recco against it. OTOH & IMHO a lot of hogwash was offered above. Txs got it right (the only one who mentioned it I think) that the bolt and cyl notches are the most at risk. The hand is retracted and is not affected and the star or cyl ratchet section also very little affected. The ways offered to check for damage are valid enough but I very much doubt that ANY damage could be detected by the naked eye after 1000 cycles, except possibly the bolt or cyl notches - and then only if the cylinder were spun and snapped closed at high rotation speed. 0
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