Centme are they worth it?
A buddie of mine talked me into buying a Centme in 308. He stated that the receiver was MFG by H&K that they will eventually increase in value. So I took his advice. I have only had the weapon out on two occasions and found that it kicked like a mule. This was after having problems with the unit. It was sent off to the repair shop for some tweeking. It still kicks like a mule though. I have been thinking of getting ride of it along with the 40 HK 20rounders that I have for it.
How reliable are these rifles?
Should I keep it or get rid of it?
How reliable are these rifles?
Should I keep it or get rid of it?
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JesseLee,
These are actually a precursor to the HK91. If you know what that is. These rifles don't normally kick too bad. They kick even less when you have a muzzle brake on them.
As for reliability, if you get one in the original configuration they are very reliable. Some of the aftermarket(cut up and re-welded/assembled in America so as to satisfy the ATF) rifles can be a real pain to break in. Others are great. Once you get them broken in, if they need it they are about as reliable a military weapon as you will find. You will also find that they have pretty good battle accuracy of about 2-4" @ 100 yds.
P.S. -the recievers were made in Spain...originally. Based off German semi-auto rifle designs of late WWII.
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Hello JesseLee,
keep it or not - as a investment maybe - as a shooter I found that the G3 (Danish army rifle for 20 years - called the model 75') was sentitive to temperature, lubrication - and if you wanted to hit with it, you had to hold it in a firm and uniform grip.
There was a lot of malfunctions caused by the many alu clips in use.
And by the way - did you know that the CETME aka G3, is a result of the work by a former Mauser ingeneer named Mr. Vorgrimmler - and that the design is based on the German prototype StG 45M.
CETME originally introduced the weapon in the 7.92 Kurtz kaliber, maybe the 308 actually is a bit to stout for a weapon of this type, as you observed - it kick's like a mule.
Regards
Hey sandwarrior - you was just faster than me!![:D][:D][:D]
Fluw0 -
ive got the FA-91 it the clone with the alum. reciver with the rail molded into it,.it does have the brake but still the kick is pretty mild,.and is accurate enough to peg bowling pins out at my favorite spot at 150-200m
theres alot of HK stamped parts on it,.. alot of people say there garbage,.. but i like the rifle,..i know it will never be anything special but it sure is fun to shoot.
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Unless you paid $2,000-$3,000+ for your rifle, most likely what you have is one of the recent CETME clones that have been coming out over the last several years, they typically sell for $300-500 ... actually these "new" CETME's are sort of clones of the HK91/G3 clones ... which are clones of the "genuine" HK91 ... which is actually a clone of the original CETME, which as noted above by sandwarrior, was invented in the early 50's in Spain by German designers that had fled the mother land late in WWII ... these "new" firearms are so far removed that they are almost original [:o)]
The Cetme's and G3 Clones, for the most part are built on reverse-engineered receivers with surplus parts that have been modified so they will not shoot in a full-auto mode, with a spackling of US made parts to comply with the 89 import ban. More recently, a US company called JLD bought the HK licensed equipment from Portugal and have been building a fair quality receiver ... several individuals are building reputations for manufacturing a quality clone, and the PTR company has been mass producing them ... most of these are not really clones as they are offered in configurations which were never "originally" offered.
The CETME's from Century Arms are hit and miss ... mostly miss, but people seem to enjoy tinkering with them to get them to shoot and function properly ... common problems are with head-space (back of the bolt is filed down to get close to spec) which would explain difficult operation of the cocking lever and uncomfortable kick, canted sights and loose fitting upper/lower receivers which accounts for most FTE's and FTF's ... Although I've heard rumors of CETME's from Century that come out of the box perfect, typically this is a hobbyists firearm as most need "tweaking" of sorts ... some more than others.
Are they worth it? ... only you can decide [}:)].
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They seem to be reasonably well altered and the one I have seems to shoot well enough for a mil. surplus. To get a high power semi auto for around $300 is somewhat of a buy, in my opinion. I do agree that they may take a little "tweeking" and that they do have to be broken in. They also are meant for military hard ball loads which usually aren't loaded quite as robust as hunting loads. I was actually surprised at the lower recoil, not as low as an AR but reasonable for a .30 caliber. They also need to be THOROUGHLY cleaned of cosmoline.
Just because the outside was clean when you got it doesn't mean they cleaned the 'innards'. Mine was absolutely loaded in the bolt and firing pin. That might also contribute the firing/recoil.0 -
Personally, I like the apprearance of the weapon. The first time that I fired it, there was all types of issues, First, it would not feed properly, the round would bend right at the bottle neck. I was told that I needed to get orgional HK mags and this would fix the problem. So I did. I ran across a company that was selling 20rd orgional alum. mags for $3.00 each. For that price I bought 40 of them. Keep in mind that this was during the 1994 ban. So anything that was "high Cap" became expensive. Secondly, I could hear a "grinding" sound when the charging handle was pulled back. I think that it needed cleaned. When I sent it off to be "tweeked" the grinding noise no longer was there. I believe that the gunsmith did clean it. Anyway, thanks for the info guys.
Does anybody know where I can get some mil ball ammo for 308?0 -
Hello JesseLee,
sounds like a original G/3 to me!![:D]
Finf youself a couple of steel-mags, the alu ones are pure poisen to reliability.
Regards
Fluw0
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