Guns From Movie
I was wondering if anyone knows the caliber and models represented in the movie Last Stand at Saber river with Tom Selleck? The 2 I am interested in are the engraved revolver he uses and the stock loading rifle that David Carradine uses in the movie. I have asked at other sites and been booted. So hopefully you all can or will help. Thanks mmbawden
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I have not seen the movie, but I do know that Selleck's gun was a .44 cal. 1860 Colt with Richards conversion made by R & D Gun Shop. The only butt loading rifle of the Civil War era I can think of right off hand is the Spencer 7 shot (probably .56 cal.), often using a Blakeslee Quickloader.
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BTW, the original Spencer was a rimfire cartridge, with a copper case I believe. Larry Ramano Gun Shop of NY now makes centerfire conversion kits for them.
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The pistol he used in the movie was an 1872 Open Top, not a conversion. It was a transisitional model before the Model P or SAA as it's commonly called. In the movie his wife was the engraver. Cimmaron arms sells them in several Calibers, 44's and 45's. 0 -
quote:The pistol he used in the movie was an 1872 Open Top, not a conversion. It was a transisitional model before the Model P or SAA as it's commonly called. In the movie his wife was the engraver. Cimmaron arms sells them in several Calibers, 44's and 45's.
shooter93-As I said I didn't see the movie, but R&D's website lists 4 1860's that they made for the movie.
quote:The revolver pictured on our home page is a Richards conversion of an 1860 Army revolver in .44 Colt that was built for Tom Selleck and used in the movie "Last Stand at Saber River". A total of four identical revolvers were built for the movie. One is on display at the Cowboy Hall of Fame Museum in Oklahoma City, two are owned by Tom Selleck, and the fourth is in the R&D collection Do you happen to know where or by whom these were used in the movie? I'm not questioning your statement-would be foolish to do so without seeing it-was just wondering where these came in? I had run into these guns in another article one time and evidently incorrectly assumed they were used by Selleck. Thanks.
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Oh....dlrjj....I didn't mean to sound nasty...my apologies if I did. I do have the movie and I'm certain R nad D made conversions for the movie. Selleck may have even used one sometime during th movie..I'll watch it again. the engraved one was a 1872 Open Top though. Selleck is pretty authentic in his movies. A lot of people don't realize how many different real and fake guns are used in a movie and sometimes models get changed for expediency..an example...Everyone knows Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry boosted model 29 sales. However...during the first movie Smith and Wesson had trouble supplying a model 29 so the movie started filming with Eastwood using a model 27 till the other arrived. Yhese things happen all the time and are usually missed by the audience. R and D are about to release a conversion kit for 1860 Armies too, in 44 caliber...I'll be getting a pair. Again my apologies if you thought i offended you. 0 -
I thought of something else that might be of interest to you guys since you seemed involved in the westerns. Elmore Leonard is a well known mystery writer but he started his career writing westerns. Last Stand at Saber River was one of his. TNT network has made other ones to based on his books. They are still all available in paperback but you may have to order them. Personally I think he was better than the other Big name western writers. As you could see from the movies he was very authentic and used a varity of different weapons not just the run of the mill stuff If you like reading westerns I'm sure you'll enjoy them. 0 -
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I was not offended in the least and glad someone corrected my guess if it was wrong. As I said, I had run in to another article on these guns, and not having seen the movie, assumed (dumb move) they were the ones in question. Was the rifle a Spencer, with Blakeslee Quickloader? That's a nice gun and I'm thinking about getting one of them. I'm not sure if I want an original to collect or a reproduction centerfire to shoot.
Is the movie any good? Selleck is one of my favorite actors and does a great job in the cowboy movie venue and, like you said, seems to keep things accurate -one of my pet peeves.
I don't take offense on-line, and always wear my double thick asbestos body suit, with the space shuttle ceramic tiles in the hip pockets whenever I post something[;)].
Thanks for the return post.
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I think I got the movie from Wal-Mart and I enjoyed it a lot. I'm going to watch it again soon....lmao...now you've got me thinking...I'm old and feeble minded...lmao...maybe I missed it being a conversion but I really did think the engraved one his wife gives him was an 1872.....lol...now I HAVE to find out. And I think Taylors offers a Spencer replica in shootable calibers. 0 -
When you find out about the pistol and the rifle, give me a quick "hey" here or in General Discussion. I'm curious about the "butt loader". If you think the movie was worth it, I'll have to get a copy.
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Is Leonard better than Lamour? I have read most (if not all) of his books and he too sometimes uses the unusual weapon. The Walsh 12 shot .36 comes to mind quickly.
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I really liked Leonard...his style is different , something that appealed to me. I like the others too, Leonard just seemed a bit unique. 0
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