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Dillon 223 rem Carbide resizing dies

bigdog1
Has anybody used these? I load a bunch of 223 ammo each year and I wonder if they would save any time.( they are pretty expensive, so how do they justify the added expense ) I know the dillon guys say that the cases still require lubrication with these dies, but how much??? Any tips and input is welcomed. Thanks in advance...
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  • tlen
    Dillon states the carbide die is " For high volume users, such as commercial reloaders, law enforcement agencies, and high power or service rifle competitors .... Lubrication is still required, but the increased scratch resistance and die longevity of carbide are of great benefit to these groups of users."
    Unless you fit one of the user categories I doubt that the high cost of the sizing die or set would be worthwhile especially since lubbing is STILL required. My thought is, how many SETS of quality dies, like RCBS, would I have to buy for the same price?
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  • kimberkid
    I use Dillon's carbide dies for pistol cartridges ... lube is not needed, which is my only reason for using them.
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  • Tailgunner1954
    KimberKid
    With a "streight wall" case, what your saying is true, however when your speaking of "taper walled bottle necked" cases luberication is still required regardless of what material the die is made from.

    Whittemore
    Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.
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  • Iconoclast
    The 5.56 carbide dies perform *exactly* as advertised - they will load 100,000s of rounds. But for the average person, they are pointless. They do *NOT* work, not even the first round, w/o lubrication. You will pull the rim off the case on the upstroke. This will also happen if the loader tries to skimp on the lubricant. Some folks - no one I know very well, of course [;)] [:o)] - just have to make sure the manufacturers are telling the truth on these topics. If you wish to experiment with dry or minimally lubed casings, be sure to have a "stuck case removal kit" within reach.

    Now, the same person has a Dillon carbide .357 SIG die and he had moderate success without lubrication on that project despite Dillon's identical caution on that one. Although the necks may be stretched if he continues the practice? Knowing the guy as well as I do, I suspect he will continue w/o the lube, prefering to acquire brass rather than waste spend the time on applying / removing lube.

    "There is nothing lower than the human race - except the french." (Mark Twain)
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