22-250 experiment. what was he doing?
these were my uncles. he had them in his loading room when he passed. his brother got the gun,([:(]) and i got all the reloading stuff. now i have bullets to a gun that i dont own!
mystery:
what kind of load was he working up based on his figures written on the box? and the bullet? what was he shooting or going to shoot?
thanks, and enjoy!
mystery:
what kind of load was he working up based on his figures written on the box? and the bullet? what was he shooting or going to shoot?
thanks, and enjoy!
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Looks like a 22-250 cartridge to me. Loaded with 34.2 grains of IMR 4064 powder and a 55 grain bullet to a velocity of 3400 feet per second. The numbers on the foam cartridge holder might be the weight of each loaded cartridge in grains? That's my take on it anyway. Probably used for varmint hunting, groundhogs most likely.
"Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away." Thoreau0 -
Hi,
Sorry to here of your uncles passing.
I really can't tell you what your uncle was going to shoot with these but maybe can interpret some of the numbers labeled on the box. I also don't know much about what reloading components were available when your uncle was reloading either and that would have some bearing on how these loads compared for their time.
Apparently, your uncle was using 55 grain bullets, which for a 22-250 would be on the heavy side. I looked up the load of 55 grain bullet and IMR 4064 in my Speer manual and find they list a load for the 22-250 at 3460 fps, so your uncle was right on the money for a safe load within spec of the manual (at least the current manual).
I interpret the numbers written horizontally next to each cartridge row as the weight of the case in grains. This would mean you uncle was a pretty savy reloader who had refined his technique to an art of weighing cartridge cases for uniformity and precision accuracy.
If he was going to this extreme, it would appear he was a sophisticated reloader and getting every ounce of accuracy and performance out of his handloads. Maybe he was working up a long range target load or a long range varment load would seem the most likely. But whatever, he seemed very precise and meticulous about his reloading.
Regards,
Heavyiron
"If I don't see you nomore on this world, I'll meet you on the next one, and don't be late!" - Jimi Hendrix0 -
Bobski,
It looks like the numbers on the left are "overall" weights of cartridges. However it looks like they are out of order numerically. I would weigh each one to see if what he was doing was creating a ladder...much like JustC(?) reported to us a few of months ago.
I'm not seeing different bullet weights so it seems as that is what is happening. Start with light and move up. Any pressure signs I'd pull the bullets.
We have the second amendment so that all the rest are secure....UNK>0 -
Ain't nothing wrong with using 55-grainers in a 22-250. I use Nosler 55-gr ballistic tip boattails with wickedly good results. 4064 is a royal pain to get into that tiny little case mouth, but if you can do it reliably, you'll find it burns slow enough to make that 55-gr bullet sing. Are there numbers on the other side of the styrofoam, too? If so, I'm thinking overall weight.
"When the going gets weird, the Weird turn pro"
Hunter S. Thompson"0 -
yeah, for whatever reason it looks like he was trying to determine of weight of the cases made a difference. He MAY have been following an experiment I have heard of that takes place of the water weigth test for internal capacity. You weight a fired case with primer, then fill it to the top with water and re-weigh it. You then subtract the dry weight from the water weight to determine internal capacity in gr's of water. This gives you an idea of your variance in internal capacity. Many guys beleive that simply weighing the finished product will accomplish CLOSE to the same thing. However, the thickness of a rim being out of average, or neck thickness being off, can skew those results.
As long as that load data is consistent with book figures at a safe limit,..and you can trust the loader,..fire one through a chronograph to see if it is corrct in MV. If so,..that seems like a safe enough check.
why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
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uncle died in 96. his mind started to go from what dad said, around 85.
i was serving so i missed the whole ordeal. i never saw the rifle, but he tended to buy inexpensive guns to test his loads with. my kind of man. he designed the bullet, THEN bought a gun to shoot it!
so odds are he got his gun from a 'mail order' store like a merchant direct or whatever.(remember those things?) what would be a basic rifle that would be a good platform for these rounds?0 -
Bobski,
Here goes,.. savage 12fv. In 22-250 of course. I haven't seen a more accurate "off the shelf rifle" except the Win .222 HB I had that I suspect someone put some really good money into to make accurate.
-good luck with this endeavor
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quote:Originally posted by sandwarrior
Bobski,
Here goes,.. savage 12fv. In 22-250 of course. I haven't seen a more accurate "off the shelf rifle" except the Win .222 HB I had that I suspect someone put some really good money into to make accurate.
-good luck with this endeavor
We have the second amendment so that all the rest are secure....UNK>
I absolutely agree. Ya can't beat Savage, dollar for dollar.
"When the going gets weird, the Weird turn pro"
Hunter S. Thompson"0 -
Most accurate rifle that I ever owned was a 22-250 Savage 112. Notice I said owned in past tense. Unfortunately in a moment of weakness I traded it.
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MARK TWAIN0 -
Remington 788 [:D] mine loves hornady 55gr sp in front of H380 0
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