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Colt Walker replica

Blckhrn
I have an opp to buy a lightly used Walker replica, maker unknown. Three questions;

1. All the Walkers I've seen have a pointed ramrod end, this one is like an 1860 and other Colts with the spring loaded retainer. Were any Walkers made this way?

2. The frame has a small crack in the base of the hammer cutout that looks like it happpened during the forging process, and I can't see much in the way of inherent stresses that would cause this. Safe to shoot?

3. It makes the usual four clicks when cocking but the sear engages at full cock way before the fourth click. Cyl. indexes correctly but hammer must be pulled back another couple degrees before the cylinder indexes and after the sear engages. Is this just a timing issue?

TIA


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  • Bert H.
    No, it is not safe to shoot. Anytime you have to list that many things that are wrong with a gun, it is NOT something worth buying... regardless of the price. It belongs in a scrap heap[xx(].

    Bert H.

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  • v35
    With that ramrod it's not a Walker. It could be a 3rd model Dragoon.
    The crack in the frames' hammer cutout concerns me. It could also be a lap or failure to fuse or a quenching crack: bad news in the metalworking business. In any event it's a serious defect. If the crack is progressing toward the center pin that the cylinder pivots on and which holds the gun together, it's a decorator gun. If I owned the revolver, I'd try and get the manufacturer to replace the frame and then the frame would have to be fitted to the backstrap and triggerguard.
    I would advise against buying the gun.
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  • v35
    P.S. Reaching full cock before the cylinder is fully indexed can be fixed with a new hand and trimming it down slowly until these events occur simultaneously. On a properly set up single action the hammer strikes the frame at the same time as the above so you don't bugger up the hand, ratchet, cylinder locking bolt or cylinder notches.
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  • Fourth Horseman
    v35 is correct, its a Dragoon, not a walker if it has the retainer under the barrel at the end of the loading lever. I agree the crack is definitely not good. I would also recommend against purchasing this gun. You don't say how much the seller wants for it, but if you want a Walker Colt reproduction that will definitely be safe to shoot, you can get a brand new Uberti made Walker Colt reproduction for probably $300.00 from Stoeger. Since its a black powder firearm, you don't even need to buy from an FFL. You could order it directly from Stoeger although you'll probably pay the full list price of $320.00 plus tax and shipping.

    http://www.uberti.com/firearms/1847-walker.tpl

    I think I've seen a few Uberti Walkers and Dragoons available for decent prices on GB auctions as well.

    You can get a 3rd model Dragoon reproduction (also Uberti made) from Stoeger for $295.00

    http://www.uberti.com/firearms/1848-dragoon.tpl

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  • Blckhrn
    Isn't the Dragoon on the smae size frame as the 1860?

    This Walker makes my .44 cal 1860 look like a derringer.

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  • v35
    No, the 1860 had a rebated cylinder and a corresponding cutout in the frame. Colt used a modified Navy frame for the 1860. That's because every effort was made to lighten the "New Model 1860". In addition, the dragoon series had longer cylinders for larger charges.
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  • Fourth Horseman
    The Dragoon can be said to be a "further development" of the Walker. Its not exactly a Walker as there are considerable differences, i.e. shorter cylinder, short frame, shorter barrel lug, slightly different grip frame, etc. Its not quite as big as a Walker but almost and is considerably bigger than the 60 Army Colt which was actually a modified 51 Colt Navy with a reinforced cylinder resulting it the "step" of the 60's cylinder and corresponding notch in the frame and it had a longer grip frame and modified barrel design with improved loading lever design. So the Dragoons were about halfway in between a Walker and a 60 Army in size and weight.
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  • CHGOTHNDER
    Bert is right but if you can buy it cheap enough it may make a great wallhanger.

    PJ

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  • Xracer
    Unfortunately, it sounds like you have a very large, very heavy, .44 caliber paperweight.
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