7-30 waters or new 6.8 rem for contender carbine??
I would like to know which would be better for a contender 23" carbine. Same price, but but are there advantages to either? I reload so I consider avail. of those items also. [:)]
Earl
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I have the contender carbine in 7-30 waters , really like it, it shoots very well , hits hard , recoil isn't bad , components are easy to get, it you don't have brass you can always neck down 30-30 cases ,,, so whats not to like , asa far as the 6.8 I have no real knowledge of that one yet , all i've done is read about it 0 -
Earl, I think the 7X30 Waters will have a very, very slight edge over the 6.8 Rem, but the difference would be small. They are both good for almost the same range of game. Almost a six in one hand, half a dozen in the other proposition.
With factory loads, the 6.8 has a clear advantage because it is loaded with spitzer bullets, while the 7X30 Waters is loaded with flat nose bullets. This is because most 7X30 rifles are lever actions with tube magazines and the flat or round nose bullets are mandatory so that one round does not set off the one ahead in the magazine under recoil. If you handload though, you can use spitzer bullets in the 7X30, so that advantage in the 6.8 is nil.
Cartidge overall length for the 6.8 is 2.255 inches, and trim length is 1.676 inches. Cartridge overall length for the 7X30 is 2.50 inches, and trim length is 2.040 inches.
The hottest loads listed for each are;
6.8 Rem 115 GR Sierra SPBT 28.2 gr H322 @2608 FPS
7X30 Waters 120 GR Nosler FP 42.0 gr H414 @2757 FPS
CAUTION: Do not use these loads, they are listed as MAX loads and should be worked up to gradually. Use the recommended starting loads listed in your reloading manual before approaching these.
As you can see, the 7X30 has a slightly longer case and more powder capacity. This gives just about 150 FPS extra velocity with top loads. Still, this is not enough to take either one out of the "30-30" class and they are both excellent for medium game such as Mule deer out to 250-300 yards. My 14 year old son loves the T/C Contender carbine in 7X30 Waters that I gave him last Christmas and he shoots 30-40 rounds through it without a problem. Recoil is very mild. Enjoy.[:D]0 -
SKYDIVER386, when you say he also shoots 30-40 krg out of it does that mean that the 7-30 will also shoot that round? 0 -
I also have the Contender carbine in 7-30 Waters and have used it
to hunt up at my friend's place in Talkeetna, AK a couple of times. VERY
good round. The recoil is minimal - scoped makes it a winner. I'll never sell/trade/or give it away!0 -
Earl.... NO YOU CAN'T SHOOT 30-40 KRG OUT OF A 7-30WATERS....
Think he meant that his son shoots 30 or 40 rounds out of it which doesn't have any problem with recoil.
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I would say the 6.8 round is going to be somewhat scarce for a while and being the brass was derived from the .30 Rem auto, which is also somewhat scarce, at least the 7-30 Waters is common with the 30-30 case. The Waters case is rimmed whereas I believe the 6.8 is rimless, if that makes any difference to you as far as extraction or reloading. 0 -
The best advice i can give you is get them both!
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quote:Originally posted by earlwellman
SKYDIVER386, when you say he also shoots 30-40 krg out of it does that mean that the 7-30 will also shoot that round?
Negative,
I'm sorry for the mix up. You cannot shoot 30-40 Krag rounds from a 7X30 barrel. I meant he shoots 30 to 40 rounds of ammunition in one session without discomfort because the recoil is very mild. Hope this clears things uo for you.
Thanks surekill.[:)]0
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