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40 year gun collection for sale

CELTIC317
Well now I can die. An older gentleman has asked me to buy/sell his entire gun collection. over 50 guns most of which have never been fired are new in boxes all are pristine even the garands, m-1s, ar15. mostly he collected winchester commemoratives but has quite a few handguns as well. The question I have is can I sell them here on gun broker for him without a ffl? since they are used I thought I could sell the rifles and ship them but I know the pistols have to go through a ffl dealer. Thanx Ed
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  • nmyers
    You don't need any license to sell the guns. You can sell them to a nonlicensee in your state (if state/local laws permit such a sale), or to an FFL in any state. It doesn't matter if the guns are new or used, rifles or pistols. You can sell any C&R gun directly to an individual in another state if he has a C&R (state/local law permitting). All other guns can be sold to an individual, but must be shipped to an FFL in his state.

    Details can be found on the Gunbroker home page. However, if you aren't knowledgeable about the law, & carrier shipping regulations, you might want to reconsider your offer; the fellows with the bulges in the cheap suits are not tolerant of even minor mistakes.

    Neal

    "Never underestimate what a federal agent will do to ensure his annual merit pay bonus."
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  • CELTIC317
    Mmyers what is c&r? Sorry for my ignorance.
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  • Nwcid
    Well I will try to make what nmyers said a bit easier. You can sell any of the guns to any private person in your state with out using a FFL dealer, assuming your state has no laws aginst it. You can sell a rifle to a person out of state with out a license assuming it is a hand delivery. ANY firearm that is shipped HAS to go to an FFL holder. Along with the normal FFL dealers there are what are called C&R lecenses for Curio & Relic. Basicaly with a C&R license you can have C&R guns shipped directly to you. C&R guns are basicly guns over 50 years old and a few others that are on the C&R list on the ATFs web site.

    Just remember there are no stupid questions, just stupid people asking questions.

    John
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  • snickers
    What Nwcid said plus most of if not all of your commemoratives will be on the C&R list.

    MONEY TALKS mine says good-bye
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  • gp52555
    I would like to piggyback on this question. OK, I am a resident of PA and want to sell some rifles to a resident of NC. Now if I send them to him, I know I need to go through an FFL in his state. What if he comes to PA to do the buy? I read 18 U.S.C. 922 (a)(3) and (5) and 27 CFR 178.29 and am even more confused now!.
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  • CELTIC317
    ok I got it guys, Thankyou all for your responses. Ed
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  • nmyers
    Sorry, Nwcid, but that is not correct. A nonlicensee may sell a firearm only to a resident of his state (state/local law permitting) or to an FFL in any state. A licensed dealer may sell a long gun to a non-resident if he appears before him at his place of business & such transfer is legal in both states, but a nonlicensee cannot.

    Celtic, this question, as well as an understanding of the C&R distinction, is a good indication that you need to beg off of the job of helping your friend dispose of his collection on the Internet. I have been inside several correctional facilities; trust me, they are not nice.

    Neal
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  • Herschel
    While Neal Myers is right on the mark with his advice on federal firearms laws, I disagree with him with his remark about correctional facilities not being nice. I too have been inside many correctional facilities. The federal honor camps are not bad, maybe even nice in comparison to other "joints". In many instances you will have only three cell mates, not really cells but more like cubicles, and they might be former corporate officials, former political figures and other white collar criminals. The food will probably be tolerable and you will not have to make stressful decisions about what to do and when to do it. Seriously, I have been inside these camps and almost envied the residents (inmates??) who were lounging around in the mid-afternoon playing chess, watching TV, lifting weights, and sunbathing (that is the honest truth).
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  • gotstolefrom
    I don't know about that Herschel.
    They did not have the option of leaving whenever they wanted...did they ?

    If we do not hang together,
    We will most certainly hang separately.
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