Llama 45 compact - reliable?
I am thinking of picking up one of these in chrome and just tossing it in the glove box forever -- I am thinking in 45acp that hardball is a good way to go. So is the piece reliable with hardball? Is there a big difference in thickness between the 7 and 10 shot? My hands are not real big.
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reliable Yes one of the most reliable PAPER Weights you will ever have [}:)] really IF you get lucky and get a good one they can be ok but more of them are junk than are good ,, if you want some thing to throw in the truck buy a good revolver 0 -
I had a single stack Mini-Max that was such a piece of junk I cut it up and trashed it.It wasnt reliable from the time I purchased it,I went back and they gave me a different magazine and that didnt help at all.It wouldnt even reliably feed Full Metal Jacket rounds and would not even feed the last round from the mag.I chopped it,regretted ever buying it,was out like $260.00 and will never buy another Llama product again.And when I say it was unreliable it was a 6 round gun and it would malfunction atleast 2 out of every 6. 0 -
I bought one of the 10 shot sub-compacts a while ago, figuring they looked like a bargain. Paid $276.00 for the gun itself, after tax. Took it to the range to try it out/break it in, and it jammed at least once per mag, usually three or four times. On round 197 it locked up mid extraction, and I absolutley could not get the slide to move. It was like someone had taken a welder and sealed every moving part in the gun. I shipped it to the warranty gun smith, at a cost of $25.00 and when I got it back the invoice said that the smith had to replace the slide assemebly, realign the feedramp, and polish the feed ramp. Took it back to the range, and while it did shoot a lot better, it still had enough minor hiccups (i.e. nothing I couldn't fix by manually cyclying the slide) that I would not consider it for defense. It PROBABLY would have been alright after another 100 rounds of breaking in, but I didn't want to risk it, especially on a gun that wasn't really fun to shoot anyway. Traded it in at the pawn shop for a Taurus 669 which IS fun to shoot and has never shown any sign of a problem. That was my exprience with the Llama .45 Sub-Compact. For a total cost of $301.00 on the gun, I am willing to say I got what I paid for. If I was going to buy a cheap plinker I would consider getting a full size one, assuming there is still warranty support for them. They are very cheap and the one I had seemed well designed, just poorly assembled with cheap parts. For defense I would never consider one again, not even a truck gun (which had been my origial intention as well). If you decide it is just too good a deal to pass up, YOU MUST ABSOLUTELY clean it top to bottom, shoot it to break it in, and find any kinks that the warranty gunsmith should fix. YOU CANNOT JUST BUY IT AND PUT IT WORK AS A DEFENSE GUN. IF you just throw it in your truck and forget about it you will be in a world of hurt if you need it. I hope I have scared you off from buying one of these things for defense purposes. If you want a cheap truck gun get a used snubby, or better yet one of the surplus Makarovs going around. You can find these for half the price of the Llama, they have a wonderful reputation for accuracy and reliabilty, and you can find inexpensive hollowpoint ammo (9x18 NOT 9x19 aka 9mm Luger)fairly easily. 0 -
Well - too bad - such a simple design - hard to imagine Llama screwed it up. Guess I will stick with my old, well worn, but absolutly reliable Star BM. 0 -
Ive never been able to get the words "reliable and LLama" to go in the same sentence in an honest description. Keeping a LLama going is a full time job.
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I rented a Llama Mini max at a range, it held 10 rounds, but would jam. If you only loaded 7 rounds it would work fine. Go figure.
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If you can't afford a better gun, better stick to a .22. Why bother to plink with ANY centerfire, anyway? The .22 can plink, so why spend 6-10x as much for the ammo? The only reason to bother with the centerfire is defense, and REAL defensive skill takes a lot of shooting and a lot of dryfire to master, then a fair amount to maintain. As in 10,000 rds to master, 5000 rds a year to keep, altho half that number can be .22, if it's the right .22, and the training is done right. If you can't afford a $500 gun, hth you going to afford $500 worth of ammo per year, hmm? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by cloop
If you can't afford a better gun, better stick to a .22. Why bother to plink with ANY centerfire, anyway? The .22 can plink, so why spend 6-10x as much for the ammo? The only reason to bother with the centerfire is defense, and REAL defensive skill takes a lot of shooting and a lot of dryfire to master, then a fair amount to maintain. As in 10,000 rds to master, 5000 rds a year to keep, altho half that number can be .22, if it's the right .22, and the training is done right. If you can't afford a $500 gun, hth you going to afford $500 worth of ammo per year, hmm?
cloop should know, he's been shootin' blanks all over this forum for days now.
"When the going gets weird, the Weird turn pro"
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I NOTICE, bozo, that you are UNABLE to point out a SINGLE instance of what you claim is the case. 0 -
That's because you've deleted all your asinie responses, kid. Nice job, for a fourteen year old.
"When the going gets weird, the Weird turn pro"
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I have a llamma Maxi-1. Full sizex 45acp. And never have had a problem out of it. Shot god knows how many rounds out of it (7 years now). No matter almost any kind of ammo out of it (really dosn't like the cheap reloads), with good ammo no jams. I bought it on sale at a local gun shop for $200 new, would buy another for the same price if I had the chance. My carry arms are a glock 26, charter arms 38, smith 36, or a kel-tech 32, depending on where I'm going. 0 -
Time and time again I have heard to never buy nor trust a Llama..
If you are looking for a cheap and reliable "Tackle Box/glove compartment" gun, did you ever consider a Makarov??
Up sides- Costs about $150 bucks, Very Reliable, Cheap Ammo(9x18mm)
Down sides- Can be uncomfortable to shoot(shock Wave into hand) and
the Ammo is cheap, but it is harder to get than standard
9mm ammo
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Llama {pronounced yama} did make a quality gun years ago, but the last twenty years has really went down the crapper, and this attempt at making a min-max just puzzles me, I think cloop could make one in wood shop close to the quality of the mini-max 
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