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Scope on Yugo a Felony????

Cubslover
I've read at a couple different places that putting a sighting device on a Yugo SKS (otherwise unmodified) is considered a Felony buy our friends at BATF unless you cut off the Bayonet lug and barrel threads????

Sounds crazy to me, what do you think???
Link...
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-39292.html

Better to carry a pistol and not need it than need a pistol and not have it.
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  • nmyers
    Baloney. That's probably why the source of this information (ATF publication, website, or decision letter) is not given.

    Neal
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  • springer1
    Not true
    but should be Why scope a YUGO[:0]
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  • ATF
    Look at the date ,that's two years ago.[:D] [:D]

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  • texastradingpost
    The problem with the Yugo SKS is that it was legally importable only as a C&R. If you change the configuration into a non importable configuration or non C&R then it technically becomes an illegal firearm. What constitutes taking it out of it's original military configuration is and always has been vague as with all military C&Rs. Consider the Yugoslavian Type 59/66 Rifle has a bayonet, grenade launcher, and night sights, so modifying can result with a rifle that has enough features to violate the 1989 Import Ban with a violation of Title 18, 922(r). So many factors come into play with a Yugo SKS that one would be wise to write the ATF with questions about any particular conversion or alteration.
    John
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  • nemesisenforcer
    quote:So many factors come into play with a Yugo SKS that one would be wise to write the ATF with questions about any particular conversion or alteration.

    Bad idea. Remember, it's not wrong until you get caught (assuming it's wrong in the first place.) Asking a notoriously adverse bureaucracy questions about issues like this is tantamount to saying "I'm looking to break the law and don't know enough about it myself to know what I can and can't get prosecuted for." They're sharks and would smell blood in the water at this one. Precisely because the rules are so ambiguous and open to "interpretation" (read: distortion, abuse and misrepresentation) are they allowed to prosecute anybody that strikes their fancy without retribution. If you do modify it (for what purpose I'm not sure) just don't let them find out.

    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by texastradingpost
    The problem with the Yugo SKS is that it was legally importable only as a C&R. If you change the configuration into a non importable configuration or non C&R then it technically becomes an illegal firearm. What constitutes taking it out of it's original military configuration is and always has been vague as with all military C&Rs. Consider the Yugoslavian Type 59/66 Rifle has a bayonet, grenade launcher, and night sights, so modifying can result with a rifle that has enough features to violate the 1989 Import Ban with a violation of Title 18, 922(r). So many factors come into play with a Yugo SKS that one would be wise to write the ATF with questions about any particular conversion or alteration.
    John


    Is that really true?

    I know once you change the configuration the gun isn't legally C&R eligible anymore, but I would imagine that once imported, its imported already and only subject to current State and Federal law, not retroactively to import law.

    Put differently if you didn't buy it as a C&R, and aren't holding it on a C&R, and it was imported legally, it should at that point be the same as any other rifle.

    Also, as a side issue, its also not clear to me how putting a scope on the rifle would change its original configuration. . .unless you're welding on parts or having metal taken off somewhere, the gun is the same before and after.
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  • vicg1
    quote:Originally posted by beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by texastradingpost
    The problem with the Yugo SKS is that it was legally importable only as a C&R. If you change the configuration into a non importable configuration or non C&R then it technically becomes an illegal firearm. What constitutes taking it out of it's original military configuration is and always has been vague as with all military C&Rs. Consider the Yugoslavian Type 59/66 Rifle has a bayonet, grenade launcher, and night sights, so modifying can result with a rifle that has enough features to violate the 1989 Import Ban with a violation of Title 18, 922(r). So many factors come into play with a Yugo SKS that one would be wise to write the ATF with questions about any particular conversion or alteration.
    John


    Is that really true?

    I know once you change the configuration the gun isn't legally C&R eligible anymore, but I would imagine that once imported, its imported already and only subject to current State and Federal law, not retroactively to import law.

    Put differently if you didn't buy it as a C&R, and aren't holding it on a C&R, and it was imported legally, it should at that point be the same as any other rifle.

    Also, as a side issue, its also not clear to me how putting a scope on the rifle would change its original configuration. . .unless you're welding on parts or having metal taken off somewhere, the gun is the same before and after.


    nope... you can not do certain things to imported firearms retroactively... that's why you can't pull a thumbhole stock off of a MAK90 and simply slap a regular pistol grip/stock on in its place...

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  • cbxjeff
    WE ARE DOOMED!

    Guys, I get the Feb & August FFL newsletter and have my origional book, since I have a C&R. I read the new rules on-line. I don't want to be sacreligious here but I can understand the Bible easier than I can get through the BATF regs.

    I like to think that I'm not a stupid guy (my wife's opinion aside) but except for Mark & a precious few of you guys, I don't think the average guy has a chance on understanding what the he** all the rules are.

    They can come and get us any da*n time they want.

    OK, I feel beter now!







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  • jhimco
    Use it only when you go to the range. Take it off for storage.
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  • gruntled


    Also, as a side issue, its also not clear to me how putting a scope on the rifle would change its original configuration. . .unless you're welding on parts or having metal taken off somewhere, the gun is the same before and after.

    The easiest way to add a scope is to replace the reciever
    cover with one that has a built-in scope mount. If you do
    that you would be changing the original configuration.
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