ww2 stuff
My grandfather recently died. After his death, the famly discovered something. In a chest was a ww2 German officers uniform, apparently from the SS. Complete uniform, boots, visor cap, with a few metals. Also included is a Wather p38 with leather holster and strap. I don't know what this stuff is worth. If someone could help me out here. I guess the uniform is in o.k condition. It needs a bad cleaning, and reaks of ceader smell. The wather is kinda rusted I guess from being holstered for probably 60 years or so. This stuff is not for sell. I only want to know a lil'bit about the history. there is also a 27mm shell, complete with the projectile. Stamped on the but of the hull is 1943. There is a lot number on the driving band. My grandfather was in WW2. He was in the 3rd armored division. Though he rairly spoke of that time. Unless he was drunk. Which was rare. I was told from my mom that he drove Gen. Patton around in a jeep. I have no Idea about that. But if someone could help me out with this ww2 stuff, like its worth, mabe some preserviation tactics, so the uniform will be around for years to come. And a good gunsmith to repair that wather. If it matters, there is 2 clips, one still has 9mm ammo stamped 9X19, on one side and a "spread eagle" on the other side. I assume its actually german ammo. Is that stuff dangerous??? What that 27 mm shell? Is it dangerous??? any info would be greatly appreachated. Thanks Eric
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For us to be able to help you with the Walther, we need quality close-up pictures. To identify it, and point you in the right direction, to get it restored to its original condition.
I don't know anything specific about the 27mm shell. Anything above 20mm, could have a projectile containing explosives. Be very carefull with it. Hopefully some of the other members can help identify it.
Don't worry about the German 9mm ammo in the P-38 magazine. The only way that stuff would be dangerous, is if a person loaded it into the P-38 and pulled the trigger.
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The stuff you have has quite a considerable value.
I know of no 27mm shell anyone used during the war, but they could have. It has a fuse on it just like any other shell. Fire or impact would be required to set it off as everything in it is mechanical. I seriously doubt your pop would leave a live shell where the kids could get it but you never know. Best to have someone with EOD experience or an artilleryman look at it.
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This link should help you identify the cannon shell, there listed by projectle diameter x casing length (both in mm).
http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/ammotables.htm
Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.0 -
I got some pictures of the Shell. Its not a 27mm, its a 37mm shell, sorry for the mistake. I am having trouble with my internet yet again, so anyone who mite have any info please send me your email address and I will email you some pictures of this thing. Here's the numbers stamped on the driving band. "13 LOT CSA-MPC 4 1943M5IB3 37MM" there is also whats looks to be a small ball with a flame out of the top side stamped on the driving band as well. Again any info would be helpful. Thanks Eric 0 -
Does your 37mm shell look anything like this?
http://www.inert-ord.net/usa03a/usa5/37mm/0 -
Simpson,
If it's US 37mm (sure sounds like it) it should have a base detonating fuze. I have a solid practice type and one that was HEAT (High Explosive, Anti-Tank).
Are there any colored bands around the projectile?
Txs, your photo is different even from the shells I have. Mine are shorter with a pebble finish on the projectile. Simpsons definately sounds US.
ADDENDUM; It will be a base detonating fuze on that baby if there is one. The projectile would have to be pulled to get at it. The the plug could be left-hand thread. Not a job for amateurs.
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Txs, you nailed it on the head. Thats exactly what this shell looks like. The projectile looks what is three pieces stuck together and cramed in that shell casing. When you thump the "tip" its hollow sounding. The middle of the shell is solid, and sounds very hard when thumped. I guess there is really know way to know if this thing is explosive or not without someone actually disassempling this thing. I'm kinda scared of it. Of course, it hasn't exploded for over 62 years, mabe there's no danger. I appreachate all the info. I'm trying to get exclusive rights to the rest of this stuff in that chest. I hope to have some pictures of the uniform, and the wather for identification, and restoration. Thanks fellers. 0 -
Simpson: I would guess the shell to be valued in the $100. range.
The P-38 w/holster (kinda rusted), at least $700.
The real money is the complete uniform. My guess, as described would be at least $5000. As stated by p3skyking, WWII militaria, especially Nazi items, are highly collectable and expensive.
Check this site out. IMO, this is the premiere dealer of original, German militaria. Navigate the site, you'll see Waffen SS Officers hats in the 1200 Euro range, tunics for 1000 Eu, boots 155 Eu, etc.
Espenlaub Miliatria http://www.aboutww2militaria.com/
The German tunics and hats were made out of wool. Moths are their biggest enemy. Do not attempt to clean them yourself.0 -
That cedar smell is why you still have viable material. Keep everything in the box. Don't clean anything, don't restore anything.
Insure it and properly store it. Then, as you have so wisely done here, seek knowledge and wisdom. Those items could be connected to identifiable individuals, making them valuable indeed. Historians and curators may be your best bet for truthful, unbiased evaluation.
Maybe you can locate some of his letters or memoirs.
Frog.
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