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anyone know about a Springfield model 1830

goldenight77
Does anyone have any information on a springfield model 1830,
how many were made, how much it goes for, anything will be helpful
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  • dcinffxva
    Hello,

    You are going to have to be a little more specific here. First, are you asking about a pistol, or musket ? Second, is it flintlock, or percussion?

    There is no "Model 1830" Springfield, but there is a model 1816 musket, and model 1817 pistol that could have an 1830 date on them.

    Will check back and try and give you more info.
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  • goldenight77
    Hello, The gun is my grandfathers and going by what he says (I'nt seen the gun yet he just got it from his brother who passed away)
    he told me it had written on it "Springfield" and "1830" along with some other stuff, It's a musket and from what he described to me over the phone I sure it's percussion
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by goldenight77
    Hello, The gun is my grandfathers and going by what he says (I'nt seen the gun yet he just got it from his brother who passed away)
    he told me it had written on it "Springfield" and "1830" along with some other stuff, It's a musket and from what he described to me over the phone I sure it's percussion


    As the previous poster noted, your Grandfathers Musket is a Model 1816 Flintlock Musket. As it's been converted to percussion, it's obviously not arsenal original. So many things might have been done to it over the years, it's virtually impossible to answer any of your questions. The best thing to do would be to locate a knowledgeable and honest local collector or dealer for a hands-on inspection/appraisal.

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  • goldenight77
    The musket is a Springfield flintlock U.S. Cadet musket
    I'm not sure if it's been converted to percussion
    does anyone know about the gun i would appreciate it.
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by goldenight77
    The musket is a Springfield flintlock U.S. Cadet musket
    I'm not sure if it's been converted to percussion
    does anyone know about the gun i would appreciate it.




    Per Flayderman's Guide, there is a Springfield, Model 1830, West Point, Cadets Musket. Besides the shorter barrels the most defining feature was the reduction in caliber from 69 to 54. He values them at anywhere between $5000.00 to $35000.00 depending if they have been converted to percussion, and the amount of original condition. As I noted previously, the best thing for your Grandfather to do, would be to get a hands-on appraisal.

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  • dcinffxva
    IF what you have is actually a Model 1830 Cadet musket, it is a pretty rare, and valuable piece. There were only 307 of them made. 153 had 36" barrels, and 154 had 40" barrels. Photos would help.

    The much higher likelihood is that it is a Model 1816 type II musket, which were made 1822-1831. There were approximately 325,000 of them made at Springfield, and a large number-give or take 80%, were converted to percussion.
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  • goldenight77
    if it was an 1816 musket wouldn't it still say it was a model 1816 musket instead of the writing "1830"
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  • goldenight77
    if it is a 1816 how much are those, either way i am going to tell him to keep it
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by goldenight77
    if it was an 1816 musket wouldn't it still say it was a model 1816 musket instead of the writing "1830"


    Every year that Springfield Armory made them between 1816 & 1840, the date on the Lockplate would change.

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  • goldenight77
    it turns out he took it to an appraiser and it is a 1830 cadet musket
    the question is should or shouldn't it be refurbed
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by goldenight77
    it turns out he took it to an appraiser and it is a 1830 cadet musket
    the question is should or shouldn't it be refurbed


    If it is indeed a West Point Cadet Musket, it's extremely rare and valuable. I wouldn't let anybody touch it till all options are explored, i.e. keep it in the family, sell it, or donate it to a museum for tax write offs etc. After these decisions are made and it's decided to keep it in the family contact the curators of the West Point and Springfield Arsenal Museums to get the names of restoration specialists who have worked on their old rifles and muskets.

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