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Info Needed on 1902 Luger Carbine

Pauper
I need some info on 1902 (Pre WW I) Luger Carbine (German Made). I can't seem to determine form any of the books that have been written (not that I have that many reference books on these pistols) if this carbine model is an "American Eagle Version" or not? It is all original with stock and even has the original carry case. It also has the grip safety (as the Luger Books state it should have to be "Am. Eagle Version") but is not stamped in the upper part of the receiver with the eagel stamp like most are. It is definitely not a military version which to my understanding, the military versions were all stamped with the eagle. I guess my real question is, were all these Luger Carbines models marked with the "Eagle" stamp on the receiver or was that just the military versions that were marked as such? What have I got???? Is it an "American Eagle" and just the commercial version or what????

Any help from you Luger experts out there would be most appreciated.

Stamped DMW (Not Swiss Stamped) 30 Cal.
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  • rufe-snow
    Go to the www.lugerforum.com many of posters their are very knowledgeable collectors, with years of experience. If you have quality photos, it would be best to post them there. I gurantee, that they will be able to give you chapter and verse on your Luger. By the time they get through, you be overdosed on all things Luger.

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  • drsck
    Lugers which have an American eagle stamped on the chamber and are therefore called American Eagle lugers. They were mostly sold as imports into the US. As you suggest in your post, many (but apparently not all) of the lugers tested by the US government also had an American eagle stamped on the chamber. Consequently, there instances of nearly identical lugers, separated by only a few serial numbers, where one will have the American eagle and the other will not. Also, as you suggest in your post, all American eagle lugers will have a grip safety, but once again, there many other versions that had a grip safety.

    The same is true of the carbines. If it doesn't have an eagle, it isn't an American eagle model. That doesn't mean there is a problem. That is, just because it doesn't have an American Eagle, doesn't mean that it isn't an authentic carbine. In fact, there were probably more carbines without the eagle than with it. I have in my collection a carbine with and a carbine without the American eagle. However, I've always had my doubts about the authenticity of the one with the eagle. I personally think that it was made into a carbine at a later date. I base this on slight differences in the forearms. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to add any others in order to do a more extensive comparison. You're fortunate to have a carbine with or without the eagle. Even those of us who are lucky enough to have one or two are jealous. Best of luck -- Steve
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