300 or 7mm
I'm looking for a new gun. I am a lefthander and have been usiing my dads 30.06 whcih is right handed. I would like to get a left handed gun and i'm stuck between picking the 7mm or the 300 which should I chose.
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What .30 caliber and 7mm are you talking about? 7-08, 7mm mag, 300mag, 300WSM or one of the others. What game animals are you intending on hunting, and the maximum range you'll be shooting? It really depends on what you'll be huntin, everybody has a reason for why the like one round more then another so it may just boil down to which you like the best.
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I will assume that you are speaking of the 7mm Rem Mag and .300 Win Mag, as they are the most common. In this case, the 7mm is going to be much closer to the .30-06 in recoil, but is slightly more powerful. The .300 win mag is about 15% more potent than the 7mm Rem Mag, but has much stiffer recoil. The 7mm Rem Mag is probably the second most popular hunting cartridge in the Western states, first place being the .30-06. On the same note, the .300 Win Mag. probably comes in 3rd or 4th. Either cartridge is capable of taking any animal on this continent, but if you are going to hunt mostly larger species, the .300 has the egde. If the rifle is goint to be for everything (Antelope/Deer/Elk/Moose/Caribou), then the 7mm will be fine. If you intend to chase after large bears, I would suggest something with more frontal diameter than either of these.
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Since you started with a 30-06; my recommendation would be to go with another .30 cal.
Recoil is a subjective thing, and if you're built like Bluto; it won't matter at all.
I think the 7mm Rem. Mag. kicks harder than an -06, but some will tell you that the .300 Win Mag kicks harder than both.
I honestly don't feel the bump from my .300's as bad as the pounding I take from my -06; then again, I have a 26" barrel on my -06.
There are more choices for bullets in the .30 caliber than in the 7mm, and I never understood the metric system anyway.
If you're planning on reloading (don't plan on it; COUNT on it!), you can make the .300 as anemic as a .223 or as strong as you want: the choice is yours, and if you make the wrong choice-you'll be getting another new gun!(nuttin' wrong with having 2!)
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I prefer the 300 mag. But if you want to go all out go with a 458 Mag or 458 Lott.
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My choice would be the 300 Win mag over the 7mm Rem mag every time. Do a little comparing 300 mag with 180 gr bullet and 7mm and 160 grain bullet nearly identical point of impact but the 300 has the foot pound edge ( energy or knockdown power ). Then compare the two using 150 grain bullets, once again the power is with the 300 mag.
7 mag uses a variety of bullets from 120 grains to 175 grains, the 300 is from 125 grains to 220 grains and up to 250 grains if you load your own.
However if you are not fond of recoil I'd get a left handed 30/06 and be done with it. 30/06 is my primary gun for almost all my big game hunting, Deer, Elk, Antelope, Black Bear, Bighorn Sheep and Mountain Goats. I am using a bigger gun for my Moose hunt in Alaska this year but not because I feel under gunned with a 30/06 on Moose, I'm taking the 375 H&H Mag just in case I have a big bear problem and want to end it quick.0 -
You can get 300win mag velocities from your 30-06 with some of the Light Magnum Factory loads if I'm not mistaken. You'll surpass the horesepower of the 7mm remington magnum with that, of course I think they make "heavy mag" loads for it which bump it up too. With that out of the way you might consider bumping up to a 338win mag or a 340weatherby to gain more knockdown power. Of course the weatherby is reputed to kick like a small mule. You should chime in and answer what you intend to hunt with your new rifle. The answers will vary but you'll get the idea.
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I intend on hunting deer and elk and then i dont know but I'm going to start to get into hunting larger animals very soon. 0 -
The .300 Winchester Magnum has a much broader use range than the 7MM Magnum. If you are going to chase bigger critters in the future the .300 will give you a comfort factor the 7MM can't give in the long run. The bullet selection for the 30 cal rounds is vast. Bullets from 100 to 250 grains can be found. Recoil is not a consideration when shooting big game IMO. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by wolfdog45
I prefer the 300 mag. But if you want to go all out go with a 458 Mag or 458 Lott.
And way out there in left field..........
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And just what's wrong with the .458 Win Mag? It kills with great efficiency on the front end, while doing a fair job of maiming on the back end. Decent ammo only runs about $4.00 a round, while the .300 Mag costs a whopping $2.00 per round. [:D]
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i have a 7mm wsm very good gun, just hope u don't mind recoil but u can get the one with the boe its a device depending on the model comes with it, it reduces the recoil up to 20% but makes it louder. its good for some big game range not so good 0 -
quote:Originally posted by ryno5235
I intend on hunting deer and elk and then i dont know but I'm going to start to get into hunting larger animals very soon.
In that case you should look at 300 win mag, or 300WSM. There are probably more bullet choices availible for the 300mag(WSM has 150gr BST, 180 fail safe, and I believe there is also a partition as well), but the 300WSM is about the same ballistic wise. It achieves nearly the same velocities without the longer barrel and bolt pull of the 300mag. I have the Browning A-bolt in 300wsm, and I must say that the 60 degree bolt throw along with the short action is pretty nice.
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