Scope for my long range deer rifle & target?
I am trying to find a good scope for my new deer rifle. I would like something that has variable power up to 16x - 24x, it would be great if it went all the way down to 3x. My gun is a Winchester Ultimate Classic Model 70 .270 with the stainless octagon barrel. I have yet to shoot it and it has never been shot. I want something with superb accuracy, I would ideally like to pick off a deer at 500 yards without too much trouble, and to possible go up to 1000 yards. I need a scope and the mounts/rings. What do I need to buy, where do I buy them, how much do they cost? I would like to get the best for the cheapest, I don't mind used stuff. I really do not want to go over a $1000 for this project. If you have any offers, tips, hints, advice, it is much needed and appreciated. Help me find the best for the cheapest. Thanks
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bushnell 4200 elite 4-16x. very nice scopes, super clear, affordable. you will not be dissappointed. has the rainguard coating that sheds water. i have two elites and i love them. pretty well recoil proof also.
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If I had $1,000 to spend on this project that you described I would get a Leupold VXIII 4.5-14 x 40 with the B&C reticle. It has aim points to 500 yards on the crosshairs, this scope sells for $580 in Cabela's, mounts ( Leupold )$25, Rings $25. This set-up accomplishes what you are asking, however very few people are up to the task of slaying a deer at 500 yards without even considering a 1000 yard shot as you mention in your post. I would bet my entire stake that more than 90% of the hunting public can't take a deer cleanly at 300 yards with a good rest and knowing the distance. Throw in some excitement, unknown winds, angles up or down, not quite sure of the range and suddenly you've got a mix for disaster and usually at the expense of the animal. You owe the animal a little more than that please be responsible and only take shots that are within your abilities. Never shoot at game further than you have practiced and proven yourself and your equipment at. It is not that important to kill a deer, maybe just sneak in a bit closer. 0 -
Not my first caliber of choice for a 1000yd gun but thats a whole other argument all together. Any ways the Leupold VX-III longrange or Burris Black Diamond would be on the top of my list if I was looking for the characteristics you specified. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Snellstrom
If I had $1,000 to spend on this project that you described I would get a Leupold VXIII 4.5-14 x 40 with the B&C reticle. It has aim points to 500 yards on the crosshairs, this scope sells for $580 in Cabela's, mounts ( Leupold )$25, Rings $25. This set-up accomplishes what you are asking, however very few people are up to the task of slaying a deer at 500 yards without even considering a 1000 yard shot as you mention in your post. I would bet my entire stake that more than 90% of the hunting public can't take a deer cleanly at 300 yards with a good rest and knowing the distance. Throw in some excitement, unknown winds, angles up or down, not quite sure of the range and suddenly you've got a mix for disaster and usually at the expense of the animal. You owe the animal a little more than that please be responsible and only take shots that are within your abilities. Never shoot at game further than you have practiced and proven yourself and your equipment at. It is not that important to kill a deer, maybe just sneak in a bit closer.
ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my gun.0 -
A Burris Black Diamond in a 6X24 would be a good place to start, and it will flat outshoot a 270 Winchester.
As far as a 1000 yd kill with a 270 on a deer, Well I doubt it ..........
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Thanks for the comments so far. To clarify one thing I wouldn't shoot at a deer at more than 500 yards. I probably wouldn't shoot at 300 unless conditions allowed, I just want the ability to know that I can and could if my skill was good enough to take one down at 500. I don't know about the ballistics of a .270 at 1000 yards, but I would like ato be able to put this scope on a different gun someday and shoot at 1000. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Snellstrom
If I had $1,000 to spend on this project that you described I would get a Leupold VXIII 4.5-14 x 40 with the B&C reticle.
Exactly what I would have said, and I have this scope (less the B&C Reticle) on my .25-06. The standard Duplex reticle version will run about $700. Realistically, the only hunting that requires greater magnification than 14x is varmint. Always remember, the higher the magnification, the smaller the FOV. It can also be very frustrating from a psycological standpoint to watch the target dance all over in a 24x scope. Nikon also makes very nice scopes that are a bit more affordable than Leopold.
As for shooting deer at 500-1000 yards with a .270 in a sporting rifle, just don't try. At best, you will wound them. I have been shooting my .25-06 for many, many years and can print groups that make most hunters jealous. I have developed handloads that put it beyond the standard .270 and .280 in both power and trajectory, but I would never attempt a 600 or 700 yard shot on a deer from a field position. It's just irresponsible.
Save the seals-club a liberal instead.0 -
buy a used nightforce with either the R2 or IR reticle and be done with it. Then after saving a bit longer, remove the mounts you have and install badger ordnance picatinny base and tactical rings. NOW you have a range-finding scope with the ability to hold over at multiple MOA's, large audible adjustment turrets, and illumination for low light shots.
Another option is the New line of IOR Valdada tacticals with MP8 ranging reticle and 35mm main tubes (tactical rings included!!!!).
why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
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