Beretta Bobcat 22LR - Good or Bad?
I posted for opinion about a pocket pistol some days ago and received some very good responses. Now I'm looking at a Beretta Bobcat 22LR. I'll be carrying in my pocket for self defense and in the automobile.
Experts - Any opinion on this pistol & caliber for self defense and concealability? My dealer cost is $189.00 delivered, which makes it quite attractive.
Thanks
Experts - Any opinion on this pistol & caliber for self defense and concealability? My dealer cost is $189.00 delivered, which makes it quite attractive.
Thanks
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Any bullet is better than none.
Jim Kammerer0 -
Had one years ago, when they first hit the street. The grip was to wide. It caused problems with cc. When I shot it, the movement of the pistol in my hand caused the manual safety to engage. Got rid of it.
If I were you, I would take a good look at the KelTec line of .32 & .380 Pocket Pistols. Their in the same price range and size as the Beretta, and obviously are chambered for a much more potent cartridge.
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quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
If I were you, I would take a good look at the KelTec line of .32 & .380 Pocket Pistols. Their in the same price range and size as the Beretta, and obviously are chambered for a much more potent cartridge.
What he said. I hjave a Kel-Tec P3AT .380, and it is a very good little gun for $250; a whole lot more punch than a .22 as well. If you are dead-set on the Beretta Bobcat's, I would suggest going with a .25 ACP version. Much more reliable due to both the cartridge design and the higher quality of .25 ammunition.
Save the seals-club a liberal instead.0 -
i agree with hunter get 38 get more power and plus what is a punnie little 22 gonna due beside po the guy u are shooting at in the heat of the moment 0 -
You could just as easily conceal a Kahr MK-9 or MK-40. I just got an MK-9 and am looking forward to carrying it when my new holster arrives.
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You may want to look at a Taurus pt22. It is DOA and has no exposed hammer. It can deliver 9, 22 cal. pellets. How is this so different from buck shot? If you shot a bad guy in the face 3 times with a 22, I bet that he backs off and ducks for cover. If not you have 6 more shots. A shot to the knee might also work with a 22. I have never shot anyone, or been shot. Hope I ever will. But I think that a well placed 22 sends a strong message.
Bamavol0 -
I have a .25 Bobcat. It's a good pistol, but marginally too big & too wide at the grip for CC in a pants pocket. And, no one ever made a (legal) leather pocket holster for it.
If I were replacing it today, I think a .32 or .380 like the KelTec would be my choice. If you MUST have a tiny gun, look for a Beretta 951 (Minx).
By the way, don't ever keep a defensive gun in your car. There are too many things that could go wrong. If you can't carry it on your person, leave it in your safe at home.
Neal0 -
My objection to a 25 is that when I was in law enforcement I saw a fellow come into the emergency room with about five 25 rounds stuck in his chest, like pellets. The doctor simply took pliers and pulled them out - no harm done to the victim. He dressed and went home. The ends of the rounds were literally stuck out of his skin and could be touched. I was hoping a 22 LR would penetrate better than that! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by jdyer
My objection to a 25 is that when I was in law enforcement I saw a fellow come into the emergency room with about five 25 rounds stuck in his chest, like pellets. The doctor simply took pliers and pulled them out - no harm done to the victim. He dressed and went home. The ends of the rounds were literally stuck out of his skin and could be touched. I was hoping a 22 LR would penetrate better than that!
If the rounds were literally visible, I would have to assume the victim was wearing rather heavy clothing. a .251" 50 gr. slug moving at 900 FPS is gonna go more than skin-deep if it is not slowed down first. When people compare the .22 LR to the .25 ACP, they often do so using factory published energy numbers-forgetting that .22 LR is tested in a 20" rifle and .25 is tested in a 2" pistol. From the same length barrel, the numbers are all but identicle. Speer sells a 35 gr. gold dot load that I have tested in ballistic clay- Significantly greater wound from my Beretta 950 BS than a CCI stinger produced out of my AMT back-up .22
Save the seals-club a liberal instead.0 -
jdyer- .22 is better than nothing. Ask the Reagan or Kennedy families about the effectivness of .22 rounds. They can be as deadly as any. I have been shot at, and I can assure you my LAST concern was "what caliber is that?"
Beretta makes the same, (practically), pistol in .32. A little more $$, but that would be my personal choice over the .22. Concider the cost of a long term weapon over the years you expect to carry it. Think long term, think concealabiliity, think reliability, think effectiveness.
My personal carry weapons are a Seecamp .32 and a Beretta 84. The Seecamp is VERY concealable as would a beretta bobcat/tomcat. I think tomcats can be had for about $200 or so, just a few more bucks than the bobcat. My 2 cents-Good luck with your choice.0
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